Parivāra — 20. Sedamocanagāthā — 1. Avippavāsapañhā
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Itthiṁ hane ca mātaraṁ,
If one kills a woman who is one’s mother,
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Purisañca pitaraṁ hane;
If one kills a man who is one’s father;
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Mātaraṁ pitaraṁ hantvā,
How, having done this,
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Na tenānantaraṁ phuse;
Does one not experience the result in the next life?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Acodayitvā assārayitvā,
If, without accusing, without reminding,
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Asammukhībhūtassa kareyya kammaṁ;
They do a legal procedure, but not face-to-face—
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Katañca kammaṁ sukataṁ bhaveyya,
How could the procedure be valid,
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Kārako ca saṅgho anāpattiko siyā;
And the Sangha not have committed an offense?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Codayitvā sārayitvā,
If, after accusing and reminding,
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Sammukhībhūtassa kareyya kammaṁ;
They do a legal procedure face-to-face—
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Katañca kammaṁ akataṁ bhaveyya,
How could the procedure be invalid,
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Kārako ca saṅgho sāpattiko siyā;
And the Sangha have committed an offense?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Chindantassa āpatti,
How is there an offense for cutting?
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Chindantassa anāpatti;
Yet no offense for cutting?
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Chādentassa āpatti,
How is there an offense for concealing?
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Chādentassa anāpatti;
Yet no offense for concealing?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Saccaṁ bhaṇanto garukaṁ,
How is speaking the truth a heavy offense,
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Musā ca lahu bhāsato;
While lying is a light one?
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Musā bhaṇanto garukaṁ,
And how is lying a heavy offense,
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Saccañca lahu bhāsato;
While speaking the truth is a light one?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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3. Pācittiyādipañhā
3. Questions on the offenses entailing confession, etc.
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Adhiṭṭhitaṁ rajanāya rattaṁ,
It is determined and dyed,
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Kappakatampi santaṁ;
And also marked;
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Paribhuñjantassa āpatti,
How is there an offense for using it?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Atthaṅgate sūriye bhikkhu maṁsāni khādati,
A monk eats meat after sunset,
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Na ummattako na ca pana khittacitto;
And is neither insane nor deranged;
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Na cāpi so vedanāṭṭo bhaveyya,
Nor overwhelmed by pain—
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Na cassa hoti āpatti;
How, then, is there no offense for him,
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So ca dhammo sugatena desito,
Yet a rule was taught by the Accomplished One?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Na rattacitto na ca pana theyyacitto,
One is neither lustful nor intent on stealing,
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Na cāpi so paraṁ maraṇāya cetayi;
Nor intent on killing another;
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Salākaṁ dentassa hoti chejjaṁ,
How, then, in giving out a ballot is one cut off?
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Paṭiggaṇhantassa thullaccayaṁ;
And how does the receiver commit a serious offense?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Na cāpi āraññakaṁ sāsaṅkasammataṁ,
It is not a risky wilderness dwelling,
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Na cāpi saṅghena sammuti dinnā;
Nor was his robe given by the Sangha;
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Na cassa kathinaṁ atthataṁ tattheva,
Nor did he participate in the robe-making ceremony there—
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Cīvaraṁ nikkhipitvā gaccheyya aḍḍhayojanaṁ;
How, then, if he stores the robe and then travels 6 kilometers,
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Tattheva aruṇaṁ uggacchantassa anāpatti,
Is there no offense at dawn?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Kāyikāni na vācasikāni,
Done by body, not by speech,
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Sabbāni nānāvatthukāni;
All with different bases for the offense;
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Apubbaṁ acarimaṁ āpajjeyya ekato,
How, then, does one commit them all together at the same time?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Vācasikāni na kāyikāni,
Done by speech, not by body,
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Sabbāni nānāvatthukāni;
All with different bases for the offense;
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Apubbaṁ acarimaṁ āpajjeyya ekato,
How, then, does one commit them all together at the same time?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Tissitthiyo methunaṁ taṁ na seve,
One does not have sex with three kinds of women,
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Tayo purise tayo anariyapaṇḍake;
Nor with three kinds of men, three kinds of ignoble ones, or paṇḍakas,
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Na cācare methunaṁ byañjanasmiṁ,
As stated in the rule—
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Chejjaṁ siyā methunadhammapaccayā;
How, then, might one still be cut off conditioned by sexual intercourse?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Mātaraṁ cīvaraṁ yāce,
One might ask one’s mother for robe-cloth,
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No ca saṅghe pariṇataṁ;
And it was not intended for the Sangha;
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Kenassa hoti āpatti,
How, then, is there an offense for one,
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Anāpatti ca ñātake;
If there is no offense in regard to one’s relatives?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Kuddho ārādhako hoti,
One angry person is approved of,
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Kuddho hoti garahiyo;
One angry person is censured;
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Atha ko nāma so dhammo,
What is the name of that rule,
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Yena kuddho pasaṁsiyo;
In which an angry person is praised?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Tuṭṭho ārādhako hoti,
One contented person is approved of,
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Tuṭṭho hoti garahiyo;
One contented person is censured;
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Atha ko nāma so dhammo,
What is the name of that rule,
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Yena tuṭṭho garahiyo;
In which a contented person is censured?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Saṅghādisesaṁ thullaccayaṁ,
An offense entailing suspension, a serious offense,
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Pācittiyaṁ pāṭidesanīyaṁ;
An offense entailing confession, one entailing acknowledgment, and one of wrong conduct—
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Dukkaṭaṁ āpajjeyya ekato,
How does one commit all together?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Ubho paripuṇṇavīsativassā,
Both are over twenty years old,
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Ubhinnaṁ ekupajjhāyo;
Both have the same preceptor,
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Ekācariyo ekā kammavācā,
The same teacher, the same ordination procedure—
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Eko upasampanno eko anupasampanno;
How, then, is it that one is ordained, but not the other?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Akappakataṁ nāpi rajanāya rattaṁ,
It is neither marked nor dyed,
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Tena nivattho yena kāmaṁ vajeyya;
Yet wearing that sarong one may go where one likes—
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Na cassa hoti āpatti,
How is there no offense for that person,
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So ca dhammo sugatena desito;
Yet a rule was taught by the Accomplished One?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Na deti na paṭiggaṇhāti,
She neither gives nor receives,
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Paṭiggaho tena na vijjati;
Because of that there is no recipient;
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Āpajjati garukaṁ na lahukaṁ,
How, then, does she commit a heavy offense,
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Tañca paribhogapaccayā;
Not a light one, because of using?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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Na deti na paṭiggaṇhāti,
She neither gives nor receives,
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Paṭiggaho tena na vijjati;
Because of that there is no recipient;
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Āpajjati lahukaṁ na garukaṁ,
How, then, does she commit a light offense,
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Tañca paribhogapaccayā;
Not a heavy one, because of using?
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Pañhā mesā kusalehi cintitā.
This question was thought out by those with skill.
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