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§ 9.70 And to all this Aemilianus makes answer — My friend, you've made a speech quite long enough In praising your fav'rite art of cookery; — as Hegesippus says in his Brethren. Do you then — Give us now something new to see beyond Your predecessor's art, or plague us not; But show me what you've got, and tell its name. And he rejoins — You look down on me, since I am a cook. But perhaps — What I have made by practising my art — according to the comic poet Demetrius, who, in his play entitled The Areopagite, has spoken as follows — What I have made by practising my art Is more than any actor e'er has gain'd, — This smoky art of mine is quite a kingdom. I was a caper-pickler with Seleucus, And at the court of the Sicilian king, Agathocles, I was the very first To introduce the royal dish of lentils. My chief exploit I have not mention'd yet: There was a famine, and a man named Lachares Was giving an entertainment to his friends; Whom I recovered with some caper-sauce. Lachares made Athena naked, who caused him no inconvenience; but I will now strip you who are inconveniencing me, said Aemilianus, unless you show me what you have got with you. And he said at last, rather unwillingly, I call this dish the Dish of Roses. And it is prepared in such a way, that you may not only have the ornament of a garland on your head, but also in yourself, and so feast your whole body with a luxurious banquet. Having pounded a quantity of the most fragrant roses in a mortar, I put in the brains of birds and pigs boiled and thoroughly cleansed of all the sinews, and also the yolks of eggs, and with them oil, and pickle-juice, and pepper, and wine. And having pounded all these things carefully together, I put them into a new dish, applying a gentle and steady fire to them. And while saying this, he uncovered the dish, and diffused such a sweet perfume over the whole party, that one of the guests present said with great truth — The winds perfumed the balmy gale convey Through heav'n, through earth, and all the aerial way; so excessive was the fragrance which was diffused from the roses.
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§ 9.71 After this, some roasted birds were brought round, and some lentils and peas, saucepans and all, and other things of the same kind, concerning which Phaenias the Eresian writes thus, in his treatise on Plants — “For every leguminous cultivated plant bearing seed, is sown either for the sake of being boiled, such as the bean and the pea, (for a sort of boiled soup is made of these vegetables,) or else for the sake of extracting from them a farinaceous flour, as, for instance, the aracus; or else to be cooked like lentils, as the aphace and the common lentil; and some again are sown in order to serve as food for fourfooted animals, as, for instance, the vetch for cattle, and the aphace for sheep. But the vegetable called the pea is mentioned by Eupolis, in his Golden Age. And Heliodorus, who wrote a description of the whole world, in the first book of his treatise on the Acropolis, said — ” After the manner in which to boil wheat was discovered, the ancients called it πύανον, but the people of the present day name it ὁλόπυρον." Now, after this discussion had continued a long time, Democritus said — But at least allow us to have a share of these lentils, or of the saucepan itself, lest some of you get pelted with stones, like Hegemon the Thasian. And Ulpian said, — What is the meaning of this pelting (βαλλητὺς) with stones? for I know that in my native city, Eleusis, there is a festival celebrated which is called βαλλητὺς, concerning which I will not say a word, unless I get a reward from each of you. But I, said Democritus, as I am not a person who makes speeches by the hour for hire, like the Prodeipnus of Timon, will tell you all I know about Hegemon.
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§ 9.72 Chamaeleon of Pontus, in the sixth book of his treatise concerning ancient Comedy, says — “ Hegemon of Thasos, the man who wrote the Parodies, was nicknamed The Lentil, and in one of his parodies he wrote — While I revolved these counsels in my mind, Pallas Athena, with her golden sceptre, Stood by my head, and touched me, and thus spake — O thou ill-treated Lentil, wretched man, Go to the contest: and I then took courage. And once he came into the theatre, exhibiting a comedy, having his robe full of stones; and he, throwing the stones into the orchestra, caused the spectators to wonder what he meant. And presently afterwards he said — These now are stones, and let who chooses throw them; But Lentil's good alike at every season. But the man has an exceedingly high reputation for his parodies, and was exceedingly celebrated for reciting his verses with great skill and dramatic power; and on this account he was greatly admired by the Athenians. And in his Battle of the Giants, he so greatly delighted the Athenians, that they laughed to excess on that day; and though on that very day the news of all the disasters which had befallen them in Sicily had just arrived, still no one left the theatre, although nearly every one had lost relations by that calamity; and so they hid their faces and wept, but no one rose to depart, in order to avoid being seen by the spectators from other cities to be grieved at the disaster. But they remained listening to the performance, and that too, though Hegemon himself, when he heard of it, had resolved to cease his recitation. But when the Athenians, being masters of the sea, brought all the actions at law concerning the islands or the islanders into the city, some one instituted a prosecution against Hegemon, and summoned him to Athens to answer it. And he came in court, and brought with him all the workmen of the theatre, and with them he appeared, entreating Alcibiades to assist him. And Alcibiades bade him be of good cheer, and ordered all the workmen to follow him; and so he came to the temple of Cybele [Metroon?], where the trials of prosecutions were held; and then wetting his finger with his mouth, he wiped out the indictment against Hegemon. And though the clerk of the court and the magistrate were indignant at this, they kept quiet for fear of Alcibiades, for which reason also the man who had instituted the prosecution ran away.”
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§ 9.73 This, O Ulpian, is what we mean by pelting (βαλλητὺς), but you, when you please, may tell us about the βαλλητὺς at Eleusis. And Ulpian replied, — But you have reminded me, my good friend Democritus, by your mention of saucepans, that I have often wished to know what that is which is called the saucepan of Telemachus, and who Telemachus was. And Democritus said, — Timocles the comic poet - there was also a writer of tragedy - in his drama called Lethe, says — And after this Telemachus did meet him, And with great cordiality embraced him, And said, “Now lend me, I do beg, the saucepans In which you boil'd your beans.” And scarcely had He finish'd saying this, when he beheld At some small distance the renowned Philip, Son of Chaerephilus, that mighty man, Whom he accosted with a friendly greeting, And then he bade him send some wicker baskets. But that this Telemachus was a citizen of the borough of Acharnae, the same poet shows us in his Dionysos, where he says — A. Telemachus th' Acharnian still is speaking, And he is like the new-bought Syrian slaves. B. How so, what does he do? I wish to know. A. He bears about with him a deadly dish. And in his Icarians, a satyric drama, he says — So that we'd nothing with us; I myself, Passing a miserable night, did first Sleep on the hardest bed; and then that Lion, Thudippus, did congeal us all with fear; Then hunger pinch'd us...... And so we went unto the fiery Dion. But even he had nought with which to help us; So running to the excellent Telemachus, The great Acharnian, I found a heap Of beans, and seized on some and ate them up. And when that ass Cephisodorus saw us, He by a most unseemly noise betray'd us. From this it is plain that Telemachus, being a person who was constantly eating dishes of beans, was always celebrating the festival Pyanepsia.
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§ 9.74 And bean soup is mentioned by Heniochus the comic writer, in his play called the Wren, where he says — A. I often, by the Gods I swear, consider In my own mind how far a fig surpasses A cardamum. But you assert that you Have held some conversation with this Pauson, And you request of me a difficult matter. B. But having many cares of divers aspects, Just tell me this, and it may prove amusing; Why does bean soup so greatly fill the stomach, And why do those who know this Pauson's habits Dislike the fire? For this great philosopher Is always occupied in eating beans.
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§ 9.75 So after this conversation had gone on for some time, water for the hands was brought round; and then again Ulpian asked whether the word χέρνιβον, which we use in ordinary conversation, was used by the ancients; and who had met with it; quoting that passage in the Iliad — He spoke, and bade the attendant handmaid bring The purest water of the living spring, (Her ready hands the ewer (χέρνιβον) and basin held,) Then took the golden cup his queen had fill'd. But the Attic writers say χερνίβιον, as Lysias, for instance, in his speech against Alcibiades, where he says, “With all his golden wash-hand basins (χερνιβιοις) and incense-burners;” but Eupolis uses the word χειρόνιπτρον, in his Peoples — And he who runs up first receives a basin (χειρόνιπτρον), But when a man is both a virtuous man And useful citizen, though he surpass In virtue all the rest, he gets no basin (χειρόνιπτρον). But Epicharmus, in his Ambassadors for a Sacred Purpose, uses the word χειρόνιβον in the following lines: — A harp, and tripods, chariots too, and tables Of brass Corinthian, and wash-hand basins (χειρόνιβα), Cups for libations, brazen caldrons too. But it is more usual to say κατὰ χειρὸς ὕδωρ (water to be poured over the hands), as Eupolis does say in his Golden Age, and Ameipsias in his Sling, and Alcaeus in his Sacred Wedding: and this is a very common expression. But Philyllius, in his Auge, says κατὰ χειρῶν, not χειρὸς, in these lines: — And since the women all have dined well,'Tis time to take away the tables now, And wipe them, and then give each damsel water To wash her hands (κατὰ χειρῶν), and perfumes to anoint them. And Menander, in his Pitcher, says — And they having had water for their hands (κατὰ χειρῶν λαβόντες), Wait in a friendly manner.
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§ 9.76 But Aristophanes the grammarian, in his Commentary on the Tablets of Callimachus, laughs at those who do not know the difference between the two expressions, κατὰ χειρὸς and ἀπονίψασθαι; for he says that among the ancients the way in which people washed their hands before breakfast and supper was called κατὰ χειρὸς, but what was done after those meals was called ἀπονίψασθαι. But the grammarian appears to have taken this observation from the Attic writers, since Homer says, somewhere or other — Marshall'd in order due, to each a sewer Presents, to bathe his hands (νίψασθαι), a radiant ewer; Luxuriant then they feast. And somewhere else he says — The golden ewer a maid obsequious brings, Replenish'd from the cool translucent springs, With copious water the bright vase supplies, A silver laver of capacious size; They wash (ὕδωρ ἐπὶ χεῖρας ἔχευαν). The tables in fair order spread, They heap the glittering canisters with bread. And Sophron, in his Female Actresses, says — O hard-work'd Caecoa, give us water for our hands (κατὰ χειρὸς), And then prepare the table for our food. And among both the tragic and comic writers the word χερνίβα is read with an acute accent on the penultima. By Euripides, in his Hercules — Which great Alcmena's son might in the basin (χερνίβα) dip. And also by Eupolis, in his Goats — Here make an end of your lustration (χερνίβα). And χέρνιψ means the water into which they used to dip a firebrand which they took from the altar on which they were offering the sacrifice, and then sprinkling the bystanders with it, they purified them. But the accusative χερνιβα ought to be written with an acute accent on the antepenultima; for all compound words like that, ending in ψ, derived from the perfect passive, preserve the vowel of the penultima of that perfect tense. And if the perfect ends its penultimate syllable with a double μμ, then the derivative has a grave on the ultima, as λέλειμμαι αἰγίλιψ, τέτριμμαιοἰκότριψ, κέκλεμμαι βοόκλεψ (a word found in Sophocles and applied to Hermes ), βέβλεμμαι κατώβλεψ (a word found in Archelaus of the Chersonese, in his poem on Things of a Peculiar Nature: and in the oblique cases such words keep the accent on the same syllable. And Aristophanes, in his Heroes, has used the word χερνίβιον.
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§ 9.77 And for washing the hands they also used something which they called σμῆμα, or soap, for the sake of getting off the dirt; as Antiphanes mentions in his Corycus — A. But while I'm listening to your discourse, Bid some one bring me water for my hands. B. Let some one here bring water and some σμῆμα. And besides this they used to anoint their hands with perfumes, despising the crumbs of bread on which men at banquets used to wipe their hands, and which the Lacedemonians called κυνάδες, as Polemo mentions in his Letter on Mean Appellations. But concerning the custom of anointing the hands with perfumes, Epigenes or Antiphanes (whichever was the author of the play called the Disappearance of Money) speaks as follows: — And then you'll walk about, and, in the fashion, Will take some scented earth, and wash your hands And Philoxenus, in his play entitled the Banquet, says — And then the slaves brought water for the hands (νίπτρα κατὰ χειρῶν,) And soap (σμῆμα) well mix'd with oily juice of lilies, And poured o'er the hands as much warm water As the guests wish'd. And then they gave them towels Of finest linen, beautifully wrought, And fragrant ointments of ambrosial smell, And garlands of the flow'ring violet. And Dromon, in his Female Harp-player, says — And then, as soon as we had breakfasted, One handmaid took away the empty tables, Another brought us water for our hands; We wash'd, and took our lily wreaths again, And crown'd our heads with garlands.
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§ 9.78 But they called the water in which they washed either their hands or their feet equally ἀπόνιπτρον; Aristophanes says — Like those who empty slops (ἀπόνιπτρον) at eventide. And they used the word λεκάνη, or basin, in the same way as they used χειρόνιπτρον (a wash-hand basin); but the word ἀπόνιμμα is used in a peculiar sense by the Attic writers only for the water used to do honour to the dead, and for purifying men who have incurred some religious pollution. As also Cleidemus tells us, in his book entitled Exegeticus; for he, having mentioned the subject of Offerings to the Dead, writes as follows: — “Dig a trench to the west of the tomb. Then look along the side of the trench towards the west. Then pour down water, saying these words, —'I pour this as a purifying water for you to whom it is right to pour it, and who have a right to expect it.' Then after that pour perfume.” And Dorotheus gives the same instructions; saying, that among the hereditary national customs of the people of Thyatira, these things are written concerning the purification of suppliants, — “Then having washed your hands yourself, and when all the rest of those who have joined in disembowelling the victim have washed theirs, take water and purify yourselves, and wash off all the blood from him who is to be purified: and afterwards stir the purifactory water, and pour it into the same place.”
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§ 9.79 But the cloth of unbleached linen with which they used to wipe their hands was called χειρόμακτρον, which also, in some verses which have been already quoted, by Philoxenus of Cythera, was called ἔκτριμμα. Aristophanes, in his Cook's Frying, says — Bring quickly, slave, some water for the hands (κατὰ χειρος), And bring at the same time a towel (χειρόμακτρον) too. (And we may remark here, that in this passage he uses the expression κατὰ χειρὸς with reference to washing the hands after eating; not, as Aristophanes the grammarian says, that the Athenians used the expression κατὰχειρὸς before eating, but the word νίψασθαι after eating.) Sophocles, in his (Enomaus, says — Shaved in the Scythian manner, while his hair Served for a towel, and to wipe his hands in. And Herodotus, in the second book of his History, speaks in a similar manner. But Xenophon, in the first book of his Cyropaedia, writes — “But when you have touched any one of these things, you immediately wipe your hands in a towel, as if you were greatly annoyed at their having been polluted in such a manner.” And Polemo, in the sixth book of his books addressed to Antigonus and Adaeus, speaks of the difference between the two expressions κατὰ χειρὸς and νίψασθαι. And Demonicus, in his Achelonius, uses the expression κατὰ χειρὸς, of water used before a meal, in these lines: — But each made haste, as being about to dine With one who'd always a good appetite, And who had also but Boeotian manners. And so they all neglected washing their hands (κατὰ χειρὸς), Because they could do that when they had dined. And Cratinus also mentions towels, which he calls ὠμόλινον, in his Archilochi, — With her hair cover'd with a linen towel, Token of slovenly neglect. And Sappho, in the fifth book of her Melodies addressed to Venus, when she says — And purple towels o'er your knees I'll throw, And do not you despise my precious gifts speaks of these towels as a covering for the head; at Hecataeus shows, or whoever else it was who wrote those Descriptions of the World in the book entitled Asia, — “And the women wear towels (χειρόμακτρα) on their heads.” And Herodotus, in his second book, says, “And after this they said that this king descended down alive into the lower regions, which the Greeks call Hades (αἵδης), and that there he played at dice with Ceres, and that sometimes he won and sometimes he lost; and that after that he returned to earth with a gold-embroidered towel, which he had received as a present from her.”
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§ 9.80 And Hellanicus, in his Histories, says that the name of the boy who, when he had given Hercules water to wash his hands, and poured it over his hands from the basin, was afterwards slain by Hercules with a blow of his fist, (on which account Hercules left Calydon,) was Archias; but in the second book of the Phoronis he calls him Cherias: but Herodorus, in the seventeenth book of his account of the Exploits of Hercules, calls him Eunomus. And Hercules also, without intending it, killed Cyathus, the son of Pyles and brother of Antimachus, who was acting as his cupbearer, as Nicander relates in the second book of his History of Oeta; to whom also he says that a temple was dedicated by Hercules in Proschium, which to this day is called the Temple of the Cupbearer. But we will stop this conversation at this point, and begin the next book with an account of the voracity of Hercules.
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§ 10.1 BOOK X. (Tr: Yonge, OCR JBK, excerpts from Attalus.org) But a wise poet should behave Like one who gives a splendid feast; And so if he is wise should he Seek the spectators to delight, So that each one, when he departs, May think that he has drunk and eaten Exactly what heed most have wish'd; Not that there should have been but one Dish for all sorts of appetites, Or but one kind of writing for all tastes. These, my good friend Timocrates, are the words of Astydamas the tragedian, in his satyric drama of Hercules. Come, let us now proceed to mention what is consistent with what we have said before, to show how great an eater Hercules was. And this is a point in his character mentioned by nearly all poets and historians. Epicharmus, in his Busiris, says — For if you were to see him eat, you would Be frightened e'en to death; his jaws do creak, His throat with long deep-sounding thunder rolls, His large teeth rattle, and his dog -teeth crash, His nostrils hiss, his ears with hunger tremble. And Ion, in his Omphale, having mentioned his voracity, adds — And then, excited by th' applause, he rose, And swallowed all the logs and burning coals. But Ion borrowed all this from Pindar, who said... And they say that he was a man of such excessive voracity, that they gave him the cormorant, amongst birds which should be sacred to him, which is called the ox -eater, on account of its voracity.
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§ 10.2 And Hercules is represented as having entered into a contest with Lepreus in respect of their mutual powers of eating, Lepreus having been the challenger: however, Hercules gained the victory. But Zenodotus, in the second book of his Epitomes, says that Lepreus was the son of Caucon, who was the son of Poseidon and Astydamia; and that he ordered Hercules to be thrown into prison, when he demanded of Augeas the reward which was due to him for his labours. But Hercules, when he had completed his labours, came to the house of Caucon, and at the entreaty of Astydamia, he became reconciled to Lepreus. And after this Lepreus contended with Hercules in throwing the quoit, and in drawing water, and also as to which would eat a bull with the greatest rapidity; and in all these things he was defeated. And after that he armed himself, and challenged Hercules to single combat, and was slain in the battle. But Matris, in his panegyric on Hercules, says, that Hercules was also challenged by Lepreus to a contest as to who could drink most, and that Lepreus was again defeated. And the Chian orator, Caucalus, the brother of Theopompus the historian, relates the same story in his panegyric on Hercules.
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§ 10.3 Homer, too, represents Ulysses as a great eater, and a very voracious man, when he says — What histories of toil I could declare, But still long-wearied nature wants repair. Spent with fatigue and shrunk with pining fast, My craving bowels still require repast; Howe'er the noble suffering mind may grieve. Its load of anguish, and disdain to live, Necessity demands our daily bread; Hunger is insolent and will be fed. For in these lines his gluttony appears prodigious, when it induces him on so unseasonable an occasion to utter apophthegms about his stomach. For he ought, if he had been ever so hungry, to have endured it, or at all events to have been moderate in his food. But this last passage shows the extreme voracity and gluttony of the man — For all my mind is overwhelmed with care, But hunger is the worst of griefs to hear; Still does my stomach hid me eat and drink, Lest on my sorrows I too deeply think. Food makes me all my sufferings forget, And fear not those which may surround me yet. For even the notorious Sardanapalus would hardly have ventured to give utterance to such sentiments as those. Moreover, when Ulysses was an old man — Voraciously he endless dishes ate, And quaffed unceasing cups of wine....
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§ 10.4 But Theagenes of Thasos, the athlete, ate a bull single-handed, as Poseidippus tells us in his Epigrams:. And as I'd undertaken, I did eat A Maeonian bull. My own poor native land Of Thasos could not have purveyed a meal Sufficient for the hunger of Theagenes. I ate all I could get, then asked for more. And, therefore, here you see, I stand in brass, Holding my right hand forth; put something in it. And Milon of Croton, as Theodorus of Hierapolis tells us in his book upon Games, ate twenty minae of meat, and an equal quantity of bread, and drank three choes of wine. And once at Olympia he took a four year old bull on his shoulders,. and carried it all round the course, and after that he killed it and cut it up, and ate it all up by himself in one day. And Titormus the Aetolian had a contest with him as to which could eat an ox with the greatest speed, as Alexander the Aetolian relates. But Phylarchus, in the third book of his Histories, says that Milon, while lying down before the altar of Zeus, ate a bull, on which account Dorieus the poet made the following epigram on him: Milon could lift enormous weights from earth, A heifer four years old, at Zeus' high feast,
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§ 10.4b And on his shoulders the huge beast he bore, As if it had been a young and little lamb, All round the wondering crowd of standers by. But he did still a greater feat than this, Before the altar of Olympian Zeus; For there he bore aloft an untamed bull In the procession, then he cut it up, And by himself ate every bit of it. But Astyanax of Miletus, having gained the victory at Olympia three times in the pancratium,. being once invited to supper by Ariobarzanes the Persian, when he had come, offered to eat everything that had been prepared for the whole party, and did eat it. And when, Theodorus relates, the Persian entreated him to do something suitable to his enormous strength, he broke off a large brazen ornament in the shape of a lentil from the couch and crushed it in his hand. And when he died, and when his body was burnt, one urn would not contain, his bones, and scarcely two could do so. And they say that the dinner which he ate by himself at Ariobarzanes' table bad been prepared for nine persons.
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§ 10.5 And there is nothing unnatural in such men as those being very voracious; for all the men who practise athletic exercises, learn with these gymnastic exercises also to eat a great deal. On which account Euripides says, in the first edition of his Autolycus - For when there are ten thousand ills in Greece, There's none that's worse than the whole race of athletes. For, first of all, they learn not to live well, Nor could they do so; for could any man Being a slave to his own jaws and appetite Acquire wealth beyond his father's riches! How could a man like that increase his substance? Nor yet can they put up with poverty, Or ever accommodate themselves to fortune; And so being unaccustomed to good habits, They quickly fall into severe distress. In youth they walk about in fine attire, And think themselves a credit to the city; But when old age in all its bitterness Overtakes their steps, they roam about the streets, Like ragged cloaks whose nap is all worn off. And much I blame the present fashions, too, Which now in Greece prevail; where many a feast Is made to pay great honour to such men, And to show false respect to vain amusements.. For though a man may wrestle well, or run, Or throw a discus, or strike a heavy blow, Still where's the good his country can expect From all his victories and crowns and prizes? Will they fight with their country's enemies With discus in hand? Or will their speed assist To make the hostile bands retreat before them? When men stand face to face with the hostile sword They think no more of all these fooleries. It were better to adorn good men and wise With these victorious wreaths; they are the due Of those who govern states with wisdom sound,. And practise justice, faith, and temperance; Who by their prudent language ward off evils, Banishing wars and factions. These are the men, Who're not alone a grace and ornament To their own land, but to the whole of Greece.
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§ 10.6 Now Euripides took all this from the Elegies of Xenophanes of Colophon, who has spoken in this way- But if a man, in speed of foot victorious, Or in the contests of the pentathlon, Where is the sacred grove of Zeus, Near to the sacred streams of Olympia; Or as a wrestler, or exchanging blows And painful struggles as a hardy boxer, Or in the terrible pancratium, He surely is a noble citizen, And well he does deserve the honours due Of a front seat at games and festivals, And at the public cost to be maintained; And to receive a public gift of honour, Which shall become an heirloom to his children. And such shall be his honours, even if He wins by horses, not by his own strength. And still I think he does not equal me; For wisdom far exceeds in real value The bodily strength of man, or horses' speed; But the mob judges of such things at random; Though'tis not right to prefer strength to sense: For though a man may a good boxer be, Or pentathlete, or unconquered wrestler, Or if he vanquish all in speed of foot- Which is the most important of all contests- Still for all this his city will enjoy No better Eunomia (good order) through his great strength or speed;. And'tis small cause for any lasting joy, That one of all her citizens should gain A prize on Pisa's banks: for such achievements Fill not the country's granaries with corn. And Xenophanes contends at great length, and with great earnestness and variety of argument, in favour of the superior advantage of his own wisdom, running down athletic exercises as useless and unprofitable. And Achaeus the Eretrian, speaking of the good constitution of the athletes, says- For naked they did wave their glistening arms, And move along exulting in their youth, Their valiant shoulders swelling in their prime Of health and strength; while they anoint with oil Their chests and feet and limbs abundantly, As being used to luxury at home.
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§ 10.7 But Heracleitus, in his Entertainer of Strangers, says that there was a woman named Helene, who ate more than any other woman ever did. And Poseidippus, in his Epigrams, says that Phyromachus was a great eater, on whom he wrote this epigram: This lowly ditch now holds Phyromachus, Who used to swallow everything he saw, Like a fierce carrion crow who roams all night. Now here he lies wrapped in a ragged cloak. But, O Athenian, whoever you are, Anoint this tomb and crown it with a wreath, If ever in old times he feasted with you. At last he came sans teeth, with eyes worn out, And livid swollen eyelids; clothed in skins, With but one single cruse, and that scarce full; For from the Lenaean games he came, Descending humbly to Calliope. But Amarantus of Alexandria, in his treatise on the Stage, says that Herodorus, the Megarian trumpeter, was a man three cubits and a half in height; and that he had great strength in his chest, and that he could eat six choenixes of bread, and twenty pounds of meat, of whatever sort was provided for him, and that he could drink two choes of wine; and that he could play on two trumpets at once; and that it was his habit to sleep on only a lion's skin, and when playing on the trumpet he made a vast noise.
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§ 10.7b Accordingly, when Demetrius, the son of Antigonus, was besieging Argos, and when his troops could not bring the helepolis against the walls on account of its weight, he, giving the signal with his two trumpets at once, by the great volume of sound which he poured forth, instigated the soldiers to move forward the engine with great zeal and earnestness; and he gained the prize in all the games ten times; and he used to eat sitting down, as Nestor tells us in his Theatrical Reminiscences. And there was a woman too, who played on the trumpet, whose name was Aglais, the daughter of Megacles, who, in the first great procession which took place in Alexandria, played a processional piece of music; having a head-dress of false hair on, and a crest upon her head,. as Poseidippus proves by his epigrams on her. And she, too, could eat twelve pounds of meat and four choenixes of bread, and drink a chous of wine, at one sitting.
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§ 10.8 There was, besides, a man of the name of Lityerses, a bastard son of Midas, the king of Celaenae in Phrygia, a man of a savage and fierce aspect, and an enormous glutton; and he is mentioned by Sositheus the tragic poet, in his play called Daphnis or Lityersas; where he says- He'll eat three asses' panniers, freight and all, Three times in one brief day; and what he calls A measure of wine is a ten-amphora cask; And this he drinks all at a single draught. And the man mentioned by Pherecrates, or Strattis, whichever was the author of the play called The Good Men, was much such another; the author says- (A) I scarcely in one day, unless I'm forced, Can eat two medimni and a half of food. (B) A most unhappy man! how have you lost Your appetite, so as now to be content With the scant rations of one ship of war? And Xanthus, in his Account of Lydia, says that Cambles, who was the king of the Lydians, was a great eater and drinker, and also an exceeding epicure; and accordingly, that he one night cut up his own wife into joints and ate her;. and then, in the morning, finding the hand of his wife still sticking in his mouth, he slew himself, as his act began to get notorious. And we have already mentioned Thys, the king of the Paphlagonians, saying that he too was a man of vast appetite, quoting Theopompus, who speaks of him in the thirty-fifth book of his History; and Archilochus, in his Tetrameters, has accused Charilas of the same fault, as the comic poets have attacked Cleonymus and Peisander.. And Phoenicides mentions Chaerippus in his Phylarchus in the following terms- And next to them I place Chaerippus third; He, as you know, will without ceasing eat As long as any one will give him food, Or till he bursts,- such stowage vast has he, Like any house.
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§ 10.9 And Nicolaus the Peripatetic, in the hundred and third book of his History, says that Mithridates, the king of Pontus, once proposed a contest in great eating and great drinking (and the prize was a talent of silver), and that he himself gained the victory in both; but he yielded the prize to the man who was judged to be second to him, namely, Calamodrys, the athlete of Cyzicus.. And Timocreon the Rhodian, a poet, and an athlete who had gained the victory in the pentathlon, ate and drank a great deal, as the epigram on his tomb shows- Much did I eat, much did I drink, and much Did I abuse all men; now here I lie;- My name Timocreon, my country Rhodes.
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§ 10.9b And Thrasymachus of Chalcedon, in one his Prefaces, says that Timocreon came to the great king of Persia, and being entertained by him, did eat an immense quantity of food; and when the king asked him, What he would do on the strength of it? he said that he would beat a great many Persians; and the next day, having vanquished a great many, one after another, taking them one by one, after this, he beat the air with his hands; and when they asked him what he wanted, he said that he had all those blows left in him if any one was inclined to come on.. And Clearchus, in the fifth book of his Lives, says, that Cantibaris the Persian, whenever his jaws were weary with eating, had his slaves to pour food into his mouth, which he kept open as if they were pouring it into an empty vessel. But Hellanicus, in the first book of his Tale of Deucalion, says that Erysichthon, the son of Myrmidon, being a man perfectly insatiable in respect of food, was called Aethon. And Polemon, in the first book of his Treatise addressed to Timaeus, says that among the Sicilians there was a temple consecrated to gluttony,. and an image of Demeter Sito; near which, also, there was a statue of Himalis, as there is at Delphi one of Hermuchus, and as at Scolus, in Boeotia, there are statues of Megalartus and Megalomazus.
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§ 10.10 And Alcman the poet records himself to have been a great eater, in his third book of Odes, when he says — And presently I will bestow On you a large round dish well fill'd; And even now'tis on the fire, Full of pulse-broth, which e'en the glutton Alcman would like to feast on warm, After the wintry solstice sets in; For he for dainties does not care, But loves the common people's dishes, As long as they are full enough. And in his fifth book he also displays his love of eating, speaking thus — God has bestowed on man three various seasons, The summer, and the winter, and the autumn; And a fourth too, the spring, when men can dance, But scarce are able to get much to eat. And Anaxilas the comic poet, speaking in his play called Chrysochous of a man named Ctesias, says — You now have nearly all things, save the art Of Ctesias himself; for wise men say,... That he does recognise nought but the beginning Of a rich banquet, and denies the end. And in his Rich Men he says — A. Others may also burst when fed too well Not Ctesias alone. — B. What should hinder it? A. For he, as wise men say, loves the beginning Of any feast, but ne'er can make an end of it. And in his play called The Graces he includes a man called Cranaus in his list of great eaters; saying — Men do not come and ask at random now, Does Cranaus eat less than Ctesias? Or do they both keep constantly devouring? And Philetaerus, in his Atalante, says — If it were needful, I could run more stadia Than e'er were run by Sotades; I surpass E'en Taureas himself in these my labours; And out-run Ctesias himself in eating. And Anaxippus, in his Thunderbolt, says — A. For now I see Damippus here approaching From the palaestra. B. What! that man of stone? Him whom your friends e'en now, from his great strength, Surname the Thunderbolt? A. Most probably; For I think he will overturn all tables Which he once strikes with his consuming jaw. And in these lines the comic poet shows that it was from this man that he had given his play the title of The Thunderbolt. And Theophilus, in his Epidaurus, says — There was a Mantinean captain, Atrestides his name; who of all men That ever lived could eat the greatest quantity. And, in his Pancratiast, he introduces the athlete as eating a great deal, where he says — A. Of boiled meat about three mina weight. B. Now mention something else. A. A fine pig's face; A ham; four pettitoes; — B. Oh, Hercules! A. Three calves' feet, and one hen. B. Oh, Apollo, oh! What else? A. Two mina weight of figs: that's all. B. And how much did you drink? A. Twelve cotylai only Of unmixed wine. B. Oh, Apollo, Horus, Sabazius!
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§ 10.11 And whole nations also have been ridiculed by the comic poets for their gluttony; as the Boeotians, for instance. Accordingly, Eubulus says, in his Antiopa — We are courageous men to toil and eat, And to endure sharp pain; the Attic race Is quick and eloquent, and they eat little; But the Boeotians eat enormously. And in his Europa he says — Go now and build up the Boeotian city, Where the men eat all day and never tire. And in his Ionian he says — He is so thorough a Boeotian In all his manners, that, like them,'tis said He's never tired nor content with eating. And in his Cercopes he says — And after that I came to Thebes, where men Spend the whole night in feasts and revelry; And each man has a privy at his doors, Which is a great boon to an o'er-fed man; For men who have got a long way to go, And who eat much and bite their weary lips, Are some of the most ludicrous of sights. And in his Mysians he represents some one as making the following speech to Hercules — Yon leaving, as you say, the Theban plain, Where valiant men sit eating all the day, Being all throat, and close beside the privy. Diphilus in his Boeotian, says — That man can eat, beginning before dawn, Or come again and eat till the following day. Mnesimachus, in his Busiris, says — For I am a Boeotian, Who do not eat much else, except these things. Alexis, in his Trophonius, says — And now that you may not be found out thus, And spoken of as men of Boeotia, By those whose wont it is to run you down, As men unequalled in creating noise, And knowing nothing else save how to eat And drink unceasingly the whole night long; Strip yourselves quick, and all prepare for action. And Achaeus, in his Contests, says — A. Are you now speaking to the spectators here, Or to the body of competitors? B. To those who eat much, as men training do. A. Whence do the strangers come from? B. They're Boeotians. And very likely it is because of all this that Eratosthenes, in his Epistles, says, that Pempelus ( Prepelaus ), when he was asked, “What sort of people the Boeotians appeared to him?” answered, “That they only spoke just as vessels might be expected to speak, if they had a voice, of how much each of them could hold.” And Polybius of Megalopolis, in the twentieth book of his Histories, says that " the Boeotians, having gained great glory at the battle of Leuctra, after that relaxed their courage again, and turned to feasting and drunkenness, and to making parties for eating among friends; and many of them, even of those who had children, spent the greater part of their substance on their feasts; so that there were a great number of Boeotians who had more invitations to supper than there were days in the month. On which account the Megarians, hating such a system as that, abandoned their alliance, and joined themselves to the Achaeans.
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§ 10.12 The people of Pharsalus also are ridiculed by the comic poets as being enormous eaters; accordingly Mnesimachus, in his Philip, says — A. Has any man of the Pharsalians come, That he may eat up e'en our very tables? B. There's no one come at all. A. So much the better; Perhaps they hare all gone somewhere else to eat Some city of Achaia ready roasted. And that it was a general imputation on all the Thessalians, that they were great eaters, Crates tells us in his Lamia, saying — Great words three cubits long, Cut into huge Thessalian slices thus: — and he by this alludes to the Thessalians as cutting their meat into overgrown pieces. And Philetaerus, in his Lampbearers, says also — And a huge piece of pork, enough to break One's arm, cut in the coarse Thessalian fashion. They used to speak also of a Thessalian mouthful, as something enormous. Hermippus says in his Fates — But Zeus, considering nought of this, Winked, and made up a huge Thessalian mouthful. And such great bits of meat Aristophanes, in his Men Frying, calls Capanic, saying — What is all this'' To the great Lydian and Thessalian banquets? And presently he says — More splendid (καπανικωτερα) far than the Thessalian: meaning big enough to load a wagon. For the Thessalians use the word καπάνη as equivalent to απηνη. Xenarchus, in his Scythians, says — A. They kept to seven Capanai for the games At Pisa. B. What do you mean! A. In Thessaly They call their earts Capanae. B. I understand.
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§ 10.13 And Hecataeus says that the Egyptians were great bread-eaters, eating loaves of rye, called κυλλήστιες, and bruising barley to extract a drink from it; and on this account Alexinus, in his treatise on Contentment, says that Bocchoris and his father Neochabis were contented with a moderate quantity of food. Pythagoras of Samos, also, used food in moderation, as Lycon of Iasus relates in his treatise on Pythagoras.. But he did not abstain from animal food, as Aristoxenus tells us; and Apollodorus the mathematician says, that he even sacrificed a hecatomb when he found out that in a right-angled triangle, the square of the side subtending the right angle is equal to the squares of the two sides containing it- When the illustrious Pythagoras Discovered that renowned problem which He celebrated with a hecatomb.
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§ 10.13b But Pythagoras was a very sparing drinker, and lived in a most frugal manner, so that he often contented himself with honey by itself. And nearly the same thing is told us of Aristeides, and of Epaminondas, and of Phocion, and of Phormion, the generals. But Manius Curius, the Roman general, lived on turnips all his life; and once, when the Sabines sent him a large sum of gold, he said he had no need of gold while he ate such food as that. And this story is recorded by Megacles in his treatise on Illustrious Men.
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§ 10.14 And there are many people who approve of moderate meals,. as Alexis tells us in his Woman in Love - But I am content with what is necessary, And hate superfluous things; for in excess There is not pleasure, but extravagance. And in his Liar he says- I hate excess; for those who practise it Have only more expense, but not more pleasure. And in his Foster Brothers he says- How sweet all kinds of moderation are!. I now am going away, not empty, but In a most comfortable state,- for wise Mnesitheus tells us that'tis always right To avoid extravagance in everything. And Ariston the philosopher, in the second book of his Amatory Similitudes, says that Polemon, the Academic philosopher, used to exhort those who were going to a supper, to consider how they might make their party pleasant, not only for the present evening, but also for the morrow. And Timotheus, the son of Conon,. being once taken by Plato from a very sumptuous and princely entertainment to one held at the Academy, and being there feasted in a simple and scholar-like manner, said that those who supped with Plato would be well the next day also. But Hegesander, in his Commentaries, says that on the next day Timotheus, meeting with Plato, said, “You, O Plato, sup well, more with reference to the next day than to the present one!” But Pyrrhon of Elis, when on one occasion one of his acquaintances received him with a very sumptuous entertainment, as he himself relates, said,. “I will for the future not come to you if you receive me in this manner; that I may avoid being grieved by seeing you go to a great expense for which there is no necessity, and that you, too, may not come to distress by being overwhelmed by such expenses; for it is much better for us to delight one another by our mutual companionship and conversation, than by the great variety of dishes which we set before one another, of which our servants consume the greater part.”
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§ 10.15 But Antigonus of Carystus, in his Life of Menedemus, relating the way in which the banquets of that philosopher were managed, says, that he used to dine with one or two companions at most; and that all the rest of his guests used to come after they had supped. For in fact, Menedemus' supper and dinner were only one meal,. and after that was over they called in all who chose to come; and if any of them, as would be the case, came before the time, they would walk up and down before the doors, and inquire of the servants who came out what was being now served up, and how far on the dinner had proceeded. And if they heard that it was only the vegetables or the cured fish that was being served up, they went away; but if they were told that the meat was put on the table, then they went into the room which had been prepared for that purpose.
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§ 10.15b And in the summer a rush mat was spread over each couch, and in the winter a fleece. But every one was expected to bring his own pillow; and the cup, which was brought round to each person, did not hold more than one cotyla. And the dessert was lupins or beans as a general rule; but sometimes some fruits, such as were in season, were brought in; in summer, pears or pomegranates; and in spring, pulse; and in winter, figs. And we have a witness as to these things, Lycophron of Chalcis, who wrote a satyric drama entitled Menedemus, in which Silenus says to the satyrs-'O cursed sons of most excellent Pan, I, as you see, have quite a fancy for you: For, by the gods I swear, that not in Caria, Nor in fair Rhodes, nor royal Lydia, Have I ever eaten so superb a supper; Phoebus Apollo! what a feast it was.' And a little further on, he says-'And the boy brought us round a scanty cup Of wine that might be worth five obols a bottle- Awfully flat; and then that cursed thing, That hang-dog lupin, danced upon the board, A fitting meal for parasites and beggars.' And presently afterwards, he says that philosophical disquisitions were carried on during the entertainment- And for dessert, We had some learned conversation. It is also related that those who met in this way very often kept on conversing to such a time that “the bird which calls the morn still caught them talking, and they were not yet satisfied.”
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§ 10.16 But Arcesilaus, when giving a supper to some people, when the bread fell short, and his slave made him a sign that there were no loaves left, burst out laughing, and clapped his hands; and said, “What a feast we have here, my friends! We forgot to buy loaves enough; run now, my boy:”-. and this he said, laughing; and all the guests who were present burst out laughing, and great amusement and entertainment were excited, so that the very want of bread was a great seasoning to the feast. And at another time, Arcesilaus ordered Apelles, one of his friends, to strain some wine; and when he, not being used to doing so, shook some of the wine and spilt some, so that the wine appeared much thicker than usual, he laughed, and said, “But I told a man to strain the wine who has never seen anything good any more than I myself have; so do you now get up, Arideices; and do you go away and tap the casks that are outside.”. And this good-humour of his so pleased and excited the mirth of those present, that they were all filled with joy.
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§ 10.17 But those of the present day who give entertainments, especially the inhabitants of the beautiful Alexandria, cry out, and make a noise, and curse the cup-bearer, the steward, and cook; and the slaves are all crying, being beaten with fists and driven about in every direction. And not only do the guests who are invited sup with great discomfort and annoyance, but even if there is any sacrifice going on,. the god himself would veil his face and go away, leaving not only the house, but even the entire city, in which such things take place. For it is absurd for a man, proclaiming that people should all confine themselves to words of good omen, to curse his wife and his children; and such a man as that would say to the guests — And now then let us hasten to the feast, That we may plan the movements of the war;- for such a man's house [Oed.Tyr] Is redolent of frankincense,
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§ 10.17b And paeans too, and groans at the same time. Now, when all this had been said, one of the guests who were present said,- We ought, then, when we consider these things; to guard against indulging our appetites too much; For a frugal dinner breeds no drunkenness, as Amphis says, in his Pan: nor does it produce insolence or insulting conduct; as Alexis testifies in his Odysseus Weaving, where he says- For many a banquet which endures too long, And many and daily feasts, are wont to cause Insult and mockery; and those kind of jests Give far more pain than they do raise amusement.. For such are the first ground of evil-speaking; And if you once begin to attack your neighbour, You quickly do receive back all you bring, And then abuse and quarrels surely follow; Then blows and drunken riot. For this is The natural course of things, and needs no prophet.
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§ 10.18 And Mnesimachus, in his Philippus, on account of the immoderate indulgence in dinners of people of his time, introduces an entertainment which professes to be a preparation for war, and which really is what that admirable writer Xenophon [ Hell.3.4' ] calls a workshop of war.. And he speaks thus: Know you now with what men you must fight? With us, who sup upon well-sharpened swords, And swallow lighted firebrands for dainties: And then, for our dessert, our slaves bring in, After the first course, Cretan bows and arrows; And, instead of vetches, broken heads of spears, And fragments of well-battered shields and breastplates; And at our feet lie slings, and stones, and bows, And on our heads are wreaths of catapults.. And Phoenix of Colophon says- A cask of wine shall be our sword — a cup Shall be our spear — our hair shall arrows be; Goblets shall be our enemies — wine our horses - Ointments and perfumes our war-cry fierce. And in the Parasite, Alexis, speaking of some very voracious person, says- And all the younger men do call him parasite, Using a gentler name; but he cares not. And Telephus in speechless silence sits, Making but signs to those who ask him questions;. So that the inviter often offers prayers To the great Samothracian gods of the sea, To cease their blowing, and to grant a calm; For that young man's a storm to all his friends. And Diphilus, in his Heracles, speaking of some similar kind of person, says- Do you not now behold me drunk and merry, Well filled with wine, and all inflamed with anger? Have not I just devoured a dozen cakes, Every one larger than a good-sized shield? On which account, Bion of Borysthenes said, cleverly enough, that “A man ought not to derive his pleasures from the table,. but from meditation;” and Euripides says- I pleased my palate with a frugal meal; signifying that the pleasure derived from eating and drinking is chiefly limited to the mouth. And Aeschylus, in his Phineus, says- And many a most deceitful meal they snatched Away from hungry jaws, in haste to enjoy The first delight of the too eager palate. And in his Stheneboea, Euripides speaks of frugality thus- A life at sea is a much troubled life,
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§ 10.18b Not reinforced with pleasures of the table, But like a stable on the shore. The sea itself Is a moist mother, not a nurse on land;'Tis her we plough; from this our food, procured With nets and traps, comes daily home to us.
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§ 10.19 For the belly is a great evil to man; concerning which Alexis speaks, in his Men Dying Together- And hence you well may see how great an evil The belly is to man; what lessons strange It teaches, and what deeds it forces on us. If there were any power which could take This part alone from out our bodies, then No one would any more do injury Or insult to his neighbour. But from this Flow all the ills that harass human life. And Diphilus, in his Parasite, says- Well did that wise Euripides oft speak, And this does seem his wisest word of all- “But want compels me and my wretched belly;” For there is nought more wretched than the belly: And into that you pour whatever you have, Which you do not in any other vessel.. Loaves you perhaps may carry in a bag,- Not soup, or else you'll spoil it. So again, You put cakes in a basket, but not pulse; And wine into a bladder, but not crabs: But into this accursed belly, men Put every sort of inconsistent thing. I add no more; since it is plain enough That all men's errors are produced by it. And Crates the Cynic, as Sosicrates tells us in his Successions, reproached Demetrius Phalereus for sending him a bag of bread with a flagon of wine.. “I wish,” said he, “that the fountains bore bread.” And Stilpon did not think himself guilty of intemperance when, having eaten garlic, he went to sleep in the sanctuary of the Mother of the Gods; but all who eat of that food were forbidden even to enter into it. But when the goddess appeared to him in his sleep, and said, “O Stilpon, do you, though you are a philosopher, transgress the law?” he thought that he made answer to her (still being asleep), “Do you give me something better to eat, and I will not eat garlic.”
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§ 10.20 After this, Ulpian said, — Since we have feasted (δεδειπναμεν) And Alexis, in his Curis, has used this expression, where he says — Since we have long since supped (δεδείπναμεν); and so has Eubulus, in his Procris — But we have not yet supped (δεδείπναμεν); and in another passage he says — A man who ought long since to have had supper (δεδειπνάναι), And Antiphanes, in his Leonidas, says — He will be here before we've finished supper (δεδείπνάναί). And Aristophanes, in his Proagon, says — It's time for me to go now to my master, For by this time I think they all have supped (δεδειπνάναι). And in his Danaides he says — You now are insulting me in a drunken manner Before you've supped (δεδειπνάναί). And Plato, in his Sophist, and Epicrates of Ambracia (and this last is a poet of the middle comedy), in his Amazons, says — For these men seem to me to have had their supper (δεδείπνάναι) In capital season. And, on the same principle, Aristophanes has given us the form ηρίσταμεν, in his Men Frying — We've drank our fill, my men, and well have dined (ήρίσταμεν). And Hermippus, in his Soldiers, says — To dine (αριστάναι), and come to this man's house. And Theopompus, in his Callaeschrus, says — We've dined (ηρίσταμεν); — for I must this discourse cut short. But, in his Politician, Antiphon has used the word καταριστᾶν, saying — When any one has all consumed in dinners (κατηρίστηκεν) His own estate, and that of all his family. And Amphis has used the word παραδεδειπνημένος, in his Vagabond, saying — The boys who long ago have lost their dinner (παραδεδειπνημενοί).
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§ 10.21 “Let us, then, now,” as Plato says in his Philebus, “pray to the gods, and pour libations to them, whether it be Dionysos, or Vulcan, or whoever else of the gods it may be, who has had the honour of having our cups mixed for his sake. For there are two fountains by us, as if we were cupbearers to mix the wine: and a person might compare a fountain of pleasure to honey; but the fountain of wisdom, which is a sober and wine-eschewing spring, to that of some hard but wholesome water, which we must be very earnest to mix as well as possible.” It is, then, time for us now to drink wane; and let some one of the slaves bring us goblets from the sideboard, for I see here a great variety of beautiful and variously-ornamented drinking-cups. Accordingly, when a large cup had been given to him, he said, — But, O boy, draw out and pour into my cup a liquor with not quite so much water in it; not like the man in the comic poet Antiphanes, who, in the Twins, says — He took and brought me an enormous cup, And I poured into it unmixed wine, Not to the honour of a boy, but all My cups, and they were numberless, I quaffed To all the gods and goddesses of heaven. Then, after them, I drank twice as much more To the great goddess and the noble king. So do you now, O boy, pour me out something stronger; for I do not prescribe to you the exact number of cyathi. But I will show you that the words κυαθος and άκρατεστερον (wine with less water in it) are both used: and then, too, I will give you a lecture about cupbearers.
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§ 10.22 But, first of all, I will speak about the habit of drinking strong drinks, with reference to which we find the word ζωρότερον. Antiphanes, in his Milanion, says — I think this man does drink the cup of health, Making his cupbearer shun too much water (ζωροτερω χρώμον οίνοχέω). And in his Lampon he says — My friend Iapyx, mix it somewhat stronger (το ζωροτερον). And Ephippus, in his Ephebi, says — He gave him in each hand a brimming flagon, Mixing in strong wine (ζωρότερον), in Homer's fashion. And you find some people say that the expression in Homer — Take care and give less water (ζωρότερον κέραιρε), does not mean that there is to be less water, but that the draught is to be hot; urging derivation from ζωτικος (giving life), and from ζεσις (boiling); — for that, as there were companions present, it would have been absurd to begin mixing the cups of wine over again. But some say that the word is to be understood as equivalent to ευκρατον (well mixed); just as we find the form δεξιτερόν used instead of δεξιόν. And some say that, since the year is called ωρος, and since the particle ζα indicates magnitude or number, ζωρος means merely what has been made many years. And Diphilus, in his Paederasts, says — Pour me now out a cup of wine to drink; Give it, by Zeus! εύζωροτερον than that; For wat'ry things are ruinous to the stomach. And Theophrastus, in his treatise on Drinking, says that ζωρότερον means mixed; quoting the following lines of Empedocles; — And soon the things which formerly they learnt Immortal were, did mortal now become, And things unmixed before became now mixed (ζωρά) Changing their previous ways and habits all.
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§ 10.23 And Plato has used the word κυαθος in the sense of a ladle, in his Phaon, where he says — Taking up thus the ladle (κύαθος) in their mouths. And in his Ambassadors he says — He stole the ladles (κΰαθοι) every time he could. And Archippus, in his Fishes, says — I bought a ladle (κΰαθοί) there from Daesias. And there is a similar use of the word in the Peace of Aristophanes: — All having fought till they had got black eyes, Lying all on the ground around the κύαθος for black eyes are reduced by having κναθοι (cupping glasses) applied to them. Xenophon also speaks of the κύαθος in the first book of his Cyropaedia; and so does Cratinus; and, besides, so does Aristophanes in many places, and Eubulus in his Orthanna; and Pherecrates, in his Triflers, has spoken of a κυαθος made of silver. But Timon, in the second book of his History of the Silli, has called κυαθοι, άρυσαιναι; speaking thus: — And ἀρυσαίνας, hard to fill with wine; naming them so from the verb άρυομαι, to draw. And they are called also άρυστηρες and αρυστίχοι. Simonides says — And no one gave me even one άρυστηρ Of the mere dregs and lees. And Aristophanes, in his Wasps, says — For I had these αρύστιχοι near me. And Phrynichus, in his Weeding Women, says — - (A cup) κύλικ' ἀρύστιχον and from this comes the word άρυταινα. They also called this vessel έφηβος, as Ζenophanes did in his Relationship; and Polybius, in the ninth book of his Histories, says that there is a certain river called the Cyathus, near Arsinoe, a city in Aitolia.
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§ 10.24 But the word ακρατεσερον, meaning the same as ζωρότερον, is used by Hyperides in his oration against Demosthenes; where he writes thus — " If any one drank any wine of much strength (ακρατεστερον), it grieved you." And a similar form is άνιαρεστερον, and also the expression in the Heliades of Aeschylus — άφθονέστερον λίβα. And Epicharmus, in his Pyrrha, has the word ευωνεστερον (cheaper); and Hyperides, in his Oration against Demades, has used the expression —'ῥᾳδιεστέραν τὴν πόλιν.' And as for the word κεραννυω (to mix), that is used by Plato in his Philebus — " Let us, O Protarchus, pray to the gods, and mingle cups (κερανννωμεν) to pour libations to them." And Alcaeus, in his Sacred Marriage, says — They mix the cups (κεραννύουσιν) and drink them. And Hyperides, in his Delian Oration, says — “And the Greeks mix (κερανννουσι) the Panionian goblet all together.” And among the ancients they were the most nobly born youths who acted as cupbearers; as, for instance, the son of Menelaus: — And the king's noble son poured out the wine. And Euripides the poet, when he was a boy, acted as cupbearer. Accordingly, Theophrastus, in his treatise on Drinking, says — " But I hear that Euripides the poet also acted as a cupbearer at Athens, among those who are called the dancers: and these men were they who used to dance around the temple of the Delian Apollo, being some of the noblest of the Athenians, and they were clothed in garments of the Theraecans {Θηραικων}. And this is that Apollo in whose honour they celebrate the Thargelia festival; and a writing concerning them is kept at Phlyai in the Daphnephorium." And Hieronymus the Rhodian gives the same account, who was a disciple of Aristotle, and that too in a book of his entitled a Treatise on Drunkenness. And the beautiful Sappho often praises her brother Larichus, as having acted as cupbearer to the Mitylenaeans in the prytaneum. And among the Romans, the most nobly born of the youths perform this office in the public sacrifices, imitating the Aeolians in everything, as even in the tones of their voices.
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§ 10.25 And so great was the luxury of the ancients in respect of their sumptuous meals, that they not only had cupbearers, but also men whom they called oenoptae (inspectors of wines). At all events, the office of oenoptae is a regular office among the Athenians; and it is mentioned by Eupolis, in his play called The Cities, in the following lines-. And men whom heretofore you'd not have thought Fit even to make oenoptae of, we now See made our generals. But oh, city, city! How much your fortune does outrun your sense. And these oenoptae superintended the arrangement of banquets, taking care that the guests should drink on equal terms. But it was an office of no great dignity, as Philinus the orator tells us, in his debate on the Croconidae. And he tells us, too, that the oenoptae were three in number, and that they also provided the guests with lamps and wicks. And some people called them “eyes;”. but among the Ephesians, the youths who acted as cupbearers at the festival of Poseidon were called “ bulls,” as Amerias tells us. And the people of the Hellespont call the cupbearer ἐπεγχύτης, or the pourer out; and they call carving, which we call κρεανομία, κρεωδαισία, as Demetrius of Scepsis tells us, in the twenty-sixth book of his Arrangement of the Trojan Forces. And some say that the nymph Harmonia acted as cupbearer to the gods; as Capito the epic poet relates (and he was a native of Alexandria by birth), in the second book of his Love Poems. But Alcaeus also represents Hermes as their cupbearer; as also does Sappho, who says-. And with ambrosia was a goblet mixed, And Hermes poured it out to all the gods.
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§ 10.26 But the ancients used to call the men who discharged this office, heralds (κήρυκες). Homer says — Meanwhile the heralds through the crowded town Bring the rich wine and destined victims down. Idaeus' arms the golden goblets pressed, Who thus the venerable king addressed. And a few lines further on he says, “On either side a sacred herald stands; The wine they mix, and on each monarch's hands Pour the full urn.” But Cleidemus says that the cooks used to be called heralds. And some people have represented Hebe as acting as cup-bearer to the gods, perhaps because their banquets were called Hebeteria. And Ptolemaeus, the son of Agesarchus, speaks of a damsel named Cleino as the cupbearer of Ptolemaeus the king, who was surnamed Philadelphus, mentioning her in the third book of his History of Philopator. But Polybius, in the fourteenth book of his History, adds that there are statues of her in Alexandria, in many parts of the city, clad in a tunic alone, holding a cup in her hand.
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§ 10.27 And so, after this conversation, Ulpian drinking a goblet of wine, said — I drink this cup, a pledge of friendship dear, To all my kinsmen, naming them. And while he was still drinking, one of those who were present quoted the rest of the passage -; When I have drunk, I'll say The rest; for I am choked: but now drink this. And Ulpian, when he had drunk it up, said, — Clearchus has these lines in his Harp Player; but I, as is said in the Wool spinners of Amphis, recommend — Let the boy wait on all with frequent goblets. And again — You fill for me, and I will give you drink; So shall the almond with the almond play: as Xenarchus says, in his Twins. And accordingly, when some of the guests asked for more wine, and others wished to have it mixed half-and-half, and when some one mentioned that Archippus, in the second edition of his Amphitryon, said — Wretch, who has mixed for you this half-and-half?. and that Cratinus had said — Giving him half-and-half; but I'm undone; every one seemed to agree to speak of the way of mixing wine among the ancients.
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§ 10.28 And when some one mentioned that Menander, in his Hero, said — Here is a measure of well-tempered wine; Take it, and drink it up; — Democritus said — Hesiod, my friends, recommends men To pour three parts of water in the cup, And let the fourth part be the vinous juiee. And, perhaps, it was on account of Hesiod that Anaxilas said, in his Nereus, — And this is much more pleasant; for I'd never Have drunk one part of wine to three of water. And Alexis, in his Nurse, recommends even a more moderate mixture than this — See, here is wine. Shall I, then, give to Criton Equal proportions? This is better far, One part of wine to four of limpid water: Perhaps you'll call that weak; but still, when you Have drunk your fill of this, you'll find your head Clear for discussion, — and the drink lasts longer. And Diocles, in his Bees, says — A. In what proportions should the wine be mix'd? B. Four parts of water to two parts of wine. And this mixture, as it is not that in ordinary use, put the questioner in mind of the well-known proverb, — Drink waters three or five; but never four. What they mean is, You had better take two parts wine with five of water, or one of wine to three of water. But, concerning this mixture, Ion the poet, in his book on Chios, says that Palamedes the soothsayer discovered and prophesied to the Greeks, that they would have a favourable voyage if they drank one portion of wine to three of water. But they, applying themselves to their drink very vigorously, took two pints of wine to five of water; — accordingly Nicochares in his Amymone, playing on the name, says — Here, you Oinomaus, — here, you two and five, — Let you and I now have a drink together. And he said nearly the same in his Lemnian Women: and Ameipsias, in his Men Playing the Cottabus, says — But I (it is Dionysos who is represented as speaking) am five and two to all of you. And Eupolis says, in his Goats, — Hail, my friend Dionysos, are you two to five? And Hermippus says, in his Gods, —' A. Then, when we drink, or when we thirsty are, We pray our wine may be in due proportion. Β. I do not bring it from a roguish wine-vault, Meaning to mock you: this which I do bring Is, as before, the proper two and five.
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§ 10.29 But in Anacreon we find one measure of wine to two of water spoken of — Come, my boy, and bring to me Such a cup as I may drink At one easy draught: pour in Ten cyathi of water pure, And five of richest Chian wine; That I may drink, from tear removed, And free from drunken insolence. And going on presently, he calls the drinking of unmixed wine, a Scythian draught — Come hither, now, and let us not Give way to vulgar shouts and noise, Indulging in the Scythian draughts While o'er our wine; but let us drink, Binging well-omened, pious hymns. And the Lacedemonians, according to the statement of Herodotus, in his sixth book, say that Cleomenes the king, having lived among the Scythians, and got the habit of drinking unmixed wine, became perfectly mad from his habit of drunkenness. And the Lacedemonians themselves, when they take it into their heads to drink hard, say that they are Episcythising. Accordingly, Chamaeleon of Heraclea, in his book on Drunkenness, writes thus concerning them: — " Since the Lacedemonians say also, that Cleomenes the Spartan became mad from having lived among the Scythians, and there learnt to drink unmixed wine; on which account, when they take a fancy to drink unmixed wine they desire their slaves to pour out in the Scythian fashion." And Achaeus, in his Aethon, a satyric drama, represents the Satyrs as indignant at being compelled to drink their wine watered, and as saying — Was the whole Achelous in this wine] But even then this race would not cease drinking, For this is all a Scythian's happiness.
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§ 10.30 But the habit of pouring libations of pure wine, as Theophrastus says, in his treatise on Drinking, was not ancient; but originally libations were what is given to the Gods, and the cottabus, what was devoted to the object of one's love. For men practised throwing the cottabus with great care, it being originally a Sicilian sport, as Anacreon the Teian says — Throwing, with his well-bent arm The Sicilian cottabus. On which account those songs of the ancient poets, which are called scolia, are full of mention of the cottabus. I mean, for instance, such a scolion as Pindar composed — And rightly I adore the Graces, Nymphs of Venus and of Love, While drinking with a loving heart This sounding cottabus I pour To Agathon, my heart's delight. And they also consecrated to those of their friends who were dead, all that portion of their victuals which fell from their tables. On which account Euripides says of Stheneboea, when she thinks that Bellerophon is dead — Nothing escaped her from her hand which fell, But in a moment she did couple it With the loved name of the Corinthian stranger.
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§ 10.31 But the ancients were not in the habit of getting drunk. But Pittacus recommended Periander of Priene not to get drunk, nor to become too much addicted to feasting, “so that,” says he, “it may not be discovered what sort of a person you really are, and that you are not what you pretend to be.” — For brass may be a mirror for the face, — Wine for the mind. On which account they were wise men who invented the proverb, “Wine has no rudder.” Accordingly, Xenophon the son of Gryllus, (when once at the table of Dionysius the tyrant of Sicily, the cupbearer was compelling the guests to drink,) addressed the tyrant himself by name, and said, “Why, O Dionysius, does not also the confectioner, who is a skilful man in his way, and one who understands a great many different recipes for dressing things, compel us also, when we are at a banquet, to eat even when we do not wish to; but why, on the contrary, does he spread the table for us in an orderly manner, in silence?” And Sophocles, in one of his Satyric dramas, says — To be compelled to drink is quite as hard As to be forced to bear with thirst. From which also is derived the saying — Wine makes an old man dance against his will. And Sthenelus the poet said very well — Wine can bring e'en the wise to acts of folly. And Phocylides says — It should be a rule for all wine-bibbing people Not to let the jug limp round the board like a cripple, But gaily to chat while enjoying their tipple: and to this day this custom prevails among some of the Greeks. But since they have begun to be luxurious and have got effeminate they have given up their chairs and taken to couches; and having taken indolence and laziness for their allies, they have indulged in drinking in an immoderate and disorderly manner; the very way in which the tables were laid contributing, as I imagine, to luxury.
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§ 10.32 And it is on this account that Hesiod, in his Eoea, has said — What joys and also what exceeding pains Has Dionysos given to mortal men who drink, Indulging in excess: for to such men Wine is an insolent master, binding fast'. Their feet and hands, their tongues and intellects, With chains unspeakable, unnoticeable; And tender sleep loves on their eyes to fall. And Theognis says — I come like wine, the sweetest drink of men, — I am not sober, nor yet very drunk; But he who goes to great excess in drink Is no more master of his mind or senses; Then he talks unintelligible nonsense. Which seems to sober men a shameful thing; But he, when drunk, is not ashamed of anything, E'en though at other times a modest man And gentle-minded. Mind you this, my friend, And don't indulge in drinking to excess, But rise from table ere the wine begins To take effect; nor let your appetite Reduce you to become its daily slave. But Anacharsis the philosopher, wishing to exhibit the power of the vine to the king of the Scythians, and showing him some of its branches, said that if the Greeks did not prune it every year it would by this time have reached to Scythia.
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§ 10.33 But those men do not act wisely who represent and describe Dionysos in their statues or pictures, and who also lead him through the middle of the market-place on a waggon, as if he were drunk; for, by so doing, they show the beholders that wine is stronger than the god. And I do not think that even a good and wise man could stand this. And if they have represented him in this state because he first showed us the use of wine, it is plain that for the same reason they should always represent Ceres as reaping corn or eating bread. And I should say that Aeschylus himself erred in this particular; for he was the first person (and not Euripides, as some people say,) who introduced the appearance of drunken people into a tragedy. For in his Cabiri he introduces Jason drunk. But the fact is, that the practices which the tragedian himself used to indulge in, he attributed to his heroes: at all events he used to write his tragedies when he was drunk; on which account Sophocles used to reproach him, and say to him, “O Aeschylus, even if you do what you ought, at all events you do so without knowing it;” as Chameleon tells us, in his treatise on Aeschylus. And they are ignorant people who say that Epicharmus was the first person who introduced a drunken man on the stage, and after him Crates, in his Neighbours. And Alcaeus the lyric poet, and Aristophanes the comic poet, used to write their poems when they were drunk. And many other men have fought with great gallantry in war when they were drunk. But among the Epizephyrian Locrians, if any one drank untempered wine, except by the express command of his physician for the sake of his health, he was liable to be punished with death, in accordance with a law to that effect passed by Zaleucus. And among the people of Massilia there was a law that the women should drink water only. And Theophrastus says, that to this day that is the law at Miletus. And among the Romans no slave ever drank wine, nor any free woman, nor any youth born of free parents till he was thirty years of age. And Anacreon is very ridiculous for having referred all his poems to the subject of drunkenness; for, owing to this, he is found fault with as having in his poem's wholly abandoned himself to effeminacy and luxury, as the multitude are not aware that while he wrote he was a sober and virtuous man, who pretended to be a drunkard, when there was no necessity at all for his doing so.
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§ 10.34 And men who are ignorant of the power of wine, say that Dionysos is the cause of madness to men; in saying which they abuse wine in a very senseless manner. On which account Melanippides says — All men have detested water Who did not before have wine; And though some have enjoyed their cups, Others have turned to ravings wild. And Aristotle, in his treatise on Drinking, says, “If the wine be moderately boiled, then when it is drunk, it is less apt to intoxicate; for, as some of its power has been boiled away, it has become weaker.” And he also says, “Old men become drunk more quickly on account of the small quantity of natural warmth which there is in them, and also of the weakness of what there is. And again, those who are very young get drunk very quickly, on account of the great quantity of natural warmth that there is in them; for, in consequence, they are easily subdued by the warmth proceeding from the wine which is added to their natural warmth. And some of the brute beasts are also capable of becoming intoxicated; such as pigs when they are filled with the husks of pressed grapes; and the whole race of crows, and of dogs, when they have eaten of the herb called oenussa: and the monkey and the elephant get intoxicated if they drink wine; on which account they hunt monkeys and crows when the former have been made drunk with wine, and the latter with oenussa. But to drink unceasingly — as Crobylus says, in his Woman who deserted her Husband — Can have No pleasure in it, surely; how should it, When it deprives a living man of power To think as he should think and yet is thought The greatest blessing that is given to man. And Alexis, in the revised edition of his Phrygian, says — If now men only did their headaches get Before they get so drunk, I'm sure that no one Would ever drink more than a moderate quantity: But now we hope t' escape the penalty Of our intemperance, and so discard Restraint, and drink unmixed cups of wine. And Aristotle says, that the wine called the Samagorean wine was so strong that more than forty men were made drunk with a pint and a half of it after it had been mixed with water.
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§ 10.35 Democritus having said this, and having drunk, said, — Now if any one can gainsay any of these statements let him come forward: and then he shall be told, as Evenus says — That may be your opinion; this is mine. But I, since I have now made this digression about the mixtures of the ancients, will resume the thread of my original discourse where I let it drop; considering what was said by Alcaeus the lyric poet. For he speaks, somewhere or other, in this way — Pour out, in just proportion, one and two. For in these words some people do not think that he is alluding to the mixture of wine and water at all; but that, being a moderate and temperate man, he would not drink more than one cyathos of pure wine, or perhaps, at the most, two. And this is the interpretation given to the passage by Chamaeleon of Pontus, who was ignorant how fond of wine Alcaeus had been. For this poet will be found to have been in the habit of drinking at every season and in every imaginable condition of affairs. In winter he speaks thus — Now the storm begins to lower, And Zeus descends in heavy snow, And streams of water stand congealed In cruel ice: let's drive away The wintry cold, and heap up fire, Anil mingle with unsparing hand The honied cup, and wreathe our brows ”With fragrant garlands of the season. And in summer, he writes — Now it behoves a man to soak his lungs In most cool wine; for the fierce dog star rages, And all things thirst with the excessive heat. And in spring, he says — Now does the flowery spring return, And shed its gifts all o'er the land; and he continues — Come then, my boy, and quickly pour A cup of luscious Lesbian wine. And in his misfortunes he sings — One must not give one's thoughts up wholly To evil fortune; for by grieving We shall not do ourselves much good. Come to me, Dionysos; you are ever The best of remedies, who bring Us wine and joyous drunkenness. And in his hours of joy he says — Now is the time to get well drunk, Now e'en in spite of self to drink, Since Myrsilus is dead at last. And, giving some general advice, he says — Never plant any tree before the vine. How, then, could a man who was so very devoted to drinking be a sober man, and be content with one or two cups of wine? At all events, his very poem, says Seleucus, testifies against those people who receive the line in this sense. For ho says, in the whole passage — Let us now drink, — why put we out the light] Our day is but a finger: bring large cups, Filled with the purple juice of various grapes; For the great son of Semele and Zeus Gave wine to men to drive away their cares. Pour on, in just proportion, one and two, And let one goblet chase another quickly Out of my head. In which words he plainly enough intimates that his meaning is; that one cup of wine is to be mixed with two of water.
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§ 10.36 But Anacreon likes his liquors stronger still; as is shown by the verses in which he says — Let the cup well be cleaned, then let it hold Five measures water, three of rosy wine. And Philetaerus; in his Tereus, speaks of two measures of water to three of wine. And he speaks thus, — I seem to have drunk two measures now of water, And only three of wine. And Pherecrates, in his Corianno, speaks even of two measures of water to four of wine, and says — A. Throw that away, my dear; the fellow has Given you such a watery mixture. B. Nay rather,'tis mere water and nought else. A. What have you done? — in what proportions, You cursed man, have you this goblet mix'd? B. I've put two waters only in, my mother. A. And how much wine? B. Four parts of wine, I swear. A. You're fit to serve as cupbearer to the frogs. And Ephippus, in his Circe, says — A. You will find it a much more prudent mixture, To take three parts of one, and four of th' other. B. That's but a watery mixture, three to four. A. Would you, then, quite unmixed your wine prefer? B. How say you?
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§ 10.37 And Timocles speaks of half and half in his Conisalus, — And I'll attack you straight with half and half, And make you tell me all the truth at once. And Alexis, in his Dorcis, or the Caressing Woman, says — I drink now cups brimming with love to you, Mixed in fair proportions, half and half. And Xenarchus, or Timocles, in his Purple, says — By Dionysos, how you drink down half and half! And Sophilus, in his Dagger, says, — And wine was given in unceasing flow, Mixed half and half; and yet, unsatisfied, They asked for larger and for stronger cups. And Alexis, in his play entitled The Usurer, or Liar, says — A. Don't give him wine quite drowned in water, now; — Dost understand me ] Half and half, or nearly: That's well. B. A noble drink: where was the land That raised this noble Dionysos! by its flavour, I think he came from Thasos. A. Sure'tis just That foreigners should foreign wines enjoy, And that the natives should drink native produce. And again, in his Suppostitious Son, he says — lie drank and never drew his breath, as one Would quaff rich wine, mixed half and half with care. And Menander, in his Brethren — Some one cried out to mingle eight and twelve, Till he with rivalry subdued the other (κατεσεισε). And the verb κατασείω was especially used of those who fell down from drinking, taking its metaphor from the shaking down fruit from the tree. And Alexis, in his Man cut off, says — He was no master of the feast at all, But a mere hangman, Chaireas his name; And when heed drunk full twenty cups of wine, Mixed half and half, he asked for more, and stronger.
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§ 10.38 And Diodorus of Sinope, in his Female Flute-player, says — When any one, O Crito, drinks ten cups, Consider, I do beg you, whether he Who never once allows the wine to pass Is in a fit state for discussion.' And it was not without some wit that Lysander the Spartan, as Hegesander relates in his Commentaries, when some vintners sold wine which had been much watered in his camp, ordered some one to supply it properly tempered, that his men might buy it with less water in it. And Alexis has said something which comes to nearly the same thing, in his Aesop; thus — A. That is a good idea of yours, O Solon, And cleverly imagined, which you have Adopted in your city. S. What is that? A. You don't let men drink neat wine at their feasts. S. Why, if I did,'twould not be very easy For men to get it, when the innkeepers Water it ere it comes out of the waggon. No doubt they do not do so to make money, But only out of prudent care for those Who buy the liquor; so that they may have Their heads from every pang of headache free. This now is, as you see, a Grecian drink; So that men, drinking cups of moderate strength, May chat and gossip cheerfully with each other: For too much water is more like a bath Than like a wine-cup; and the wine-cooler Mixed with the cask, my friend, is death itself.
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§ 10.39 “But to drink to the degree of drunkenness,” says Plato, in his sixth book of the Laws, is neither becoming anywhere — except perhaps in the days of festival of the god who gave men wine for their banquets, — nor is it wholesome: and, above all, a man ought to guard against such a thing who has any thoughts of marriage; for at such a time, above all other times, both bride and bridegroom ought to be in full possession of their faculties; when they are entering upon what is no small change in the circumstances of their life; and also they ought to be influenced by anxiety that their offspring shall be the offspring of parents in the fullest possible possession of all their faculties; for it is very uncertain what' day or what night will be the originating cause of it." And in the first book of his Laws he says — " But respecting drunkenness it may be a question, whether we ought to give way to it as the Lydians do, and the Persians, and the Carthaginians, and the Celtic, and the Spaniards, and the Thracians, and other nations like them; or whether like you, O Lacedemonians, one ought wholly to abstain from it. But the Scythians and the Thracians, who indulge altogether in drinking unmixed wine, both the women and all the men, and who spill it all over their clothes, think that they are maintaining a very honourable practice, and one that tends to their happiness. And the Persians indulge to a great extent in other modes of luxury which you reject; but still they practise them with more moderation than the Scythians and Thracians. 40.
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§ 10.40 And many used to put lumps of barley meal into their wine when they drank, a custom which Hegesander of Delphi mentions. Accordingly Epinicus, when Mnesiptolemus had given a recitation of his history, in which it was written how Seleucus had used meal in his wine, having written a drama entitled Mnesiptolemus, and having turned him into ridicule, as the comic poets do, and using his own words about that sort of drink, represents him as saying: Once I beheld the noble king Seleucus,. One summer's day, drinking with mighty pleasure Some wine with meal steeped in it. (So I took A note of it, and showed it to a crowd, Although it was an unimportant thing, Yet still my genius could make it serious.) He took some fine old Thasian wine, and then Some of the liquor which the Attic bee Distils who culls the sweets from every flower; And that he mingled in a marble cup, And mixed the liquor with Demeter's corn, And took the draught, a respite from the heat. And the same writer tells us that in the Therades islands men mash lentils and pease into meal,. instead of ordinary corn, and put that into the wine, and that this drink is said to be better than that in which the meal is mixed.
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§ 10.41 Now it was not the fashion among the Lacedemonians to practise the system of pledging healths at their banquets, nor to salute one another with mutual greetings and caresses at their feasts. And Critias shows us this in his Elegies: — And this is an old fashion, well established, And sanctioned by the laws of noble Sparta, That all should drink from one well-filled cup; And that no healths should then be drunk to any one, Naming the tender object: also that The cup should not go round towards the right. The Lydian goblets....And to drink healths with skill and well-turned phrase, Naming the person whom one means to pledge. For, after draughts like this, the tongue gets loose, And turns to most unseemly conversation; They make the body weak; they throw a mist Over the eyes; and make forgetfulness Eat recollection out of the full heart. The mind no longer stands on solid ground; The slaves are all corrupted by licentiousness, And sad extravagance eats up the house, But those wise youths whom Lacedemon breeds Drink only what may stimulate their souls To deeds of daring in th' adventurous war, And rouse the tongue to wit and moderate mirth. Such draughts are wholesome both for mind and body, And not injurious to the pocket either: Good, too, for deeds of love; authors of sleep, That wholesome harbour after toil and care: Good, too, for Health — that best of goddesses Who mortal man befriend: and likewise good For piety's best neighbour Sophrosyne (temperance). And presently afterwards he goes on — For fierce, immoderate draughts of heady wine Give momentary pleasure, but engender A long-enduring pain which follows it. But men at Sparta love a mode of life Which is more equal; they but eat and drink That which is wholesome, so that they may be Fit to endure hard pains, and do great deeds. Nor have they stated days in all the year, When it is lawful to indulge too much.
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§ 10.42 And a man who is always ready for wine is called φιλοίνος. But he is called φιλοπότης who is always ready to drink anything; and he is called κωθωνηστης who drinks to the degree of drunkenness. And of all heroes, the greatest drinker is Nestor, who lived three times as long as other men; for he evidently used to stick to his wine more closely than other people, and even than Agamemnon himself, whom Achilles upbraids as a man given to much drinking. But Nestor, even when a most important battle was impending, could not keep away from drinking. Accordingly Homer says — But not the genial feast or flowing bowl Could charm the cares of Nestor's watchful soul. And he is the only hero whose drinking-cup he has described, as he has the shield of Achilles; for he went to the war with his goblet just as he did with that shield, the fame of which Hector says had reached to heaven. And a man would not be very wrong who called that cup of his the Goblet of Mars, like the Caeneus of Antiphanes, in which it is said — The hero stood and brandished Mars's cup, Like great Timotheus, and his polished spear. And indeed it was on account of his fondness for drinking that Nestor, in the games instituted in honour of Patroclus, received a drinking-cup as a present from Achilles; not but what Achilles also gave a cup to the competitor who was defeated: for victory does not commonly attend hard drinkers, on account of their usual inactivity; or perhaps it is owing to their thirst that boxers usually fail, from being fatigued with holding out their hands too long. But Eumelus receives a breastplate after having run a course with great danger, and having been torn, the breastplate being a serviceable piece of defensive armour.
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§ 10.43 But there is nothing more covetous than thirst; on which account the poet has called Argos thirsty, or rather causing great thirst, as having been much desired on account of the length of time the person of whom he is speaking had been absent from it. For thirst engenders in all men a violent desire for abundant enjoyment; on which account Sophocles says — Though you were to unfold unnumberd treasures Of wisdom to a thirsty man, you'd find You pleased him less than if you gave him drink. And Archilochus says — I wish to fight with you, as much as e'er A thirsty man desired to quench his thirst. And one of the tragic poets has said — I bid you check your hand which thirsts for blood. And Anacreon says — For you are kind to every stranger, So let me drink and quench my thirst. And Xenophon, in the third book of his Cyropaedia, represents Cyrus as speaking in this manner: — " I thirst to gratify you." And Plato, in his Polity, says — " But if, as I imagine, any city which is governed by a democracy, thirsting for its liberty, should have evil-disposed cupbearers to wait upon it, and should be intoxicated to an improper degree with unmixed wine.... "
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§ 10.44 Proteas the Macedonian was also a very great drinker, as Ephippus tells us in his treatise on the Funeral of Alexander and Hephaestion: and he had an admirable constitution, and he had practised drinking to a great degree. Accordingly, Alexander, having once asked for a cup containing two choes, and having drank from it, pledged Proteas; and he, having taken it, and having sung the praises of the king a great deal, drank it in such a manner as to be applauded by every one. And presently Proteas asked for the same cup again, and again he drank and pledged the king. And Alexander, having taken the cup, drank it off in a princely manner, but he could not stand it, but leaned back on the pillow, letting the cup fall from his hands; and after this he fell sick and died, Dionysos, as it is said, being angry with him because he had besieged his native city of Thebes. And Alexander drank a great deal too, so that he once, after a drunken bout, slept without interruption two days and two nights. And this is shown in his Journals, which were compiled by Eumenes the Cardian, and Diodotus the Eretrian. But Menander, in his Flatterer, says — A. My good friend, Struthias, I thrice have drunk A golden cup in Cappadocia, Containing ten full cotylae of wine. St. Why, then you drank more than king Alexander. A. At all events not less, I swear by Pallas. St. A wondrous feat. But Nicobule, or whoever it was who wrote the books attributed to her, says that “ Alexander, once supping with Medeus the Thessalian, when there were twenty people present at the party, pledged every one of the guests, receiving a similar pledge from all of them, and then, rising up from the party, he presently went off to sleep.” And Callisthenes the Sophist, as Lynceus the Samian says in his Commentaries, and Aristobulus and Chares in their Histories, when in a banquet given by Alexander, a cup of unmixed wine came to him, rejected it; and when some one said to him, Why do you not drink? I do not wish, said he, after having drunk the cup of Alexander, to stand in need of the cup of Asclepius."
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§ 10.45 But Darius, who destroyed the Magi, had an inscription written on his tomb, — " I was able to drink a great deal of wine, and to bear it well." And Ctesias says, that among the Indians it is not lawful for the king to get drunk; but among the Persians it is permitted to the king to get drunk one day in the year, — the day, namely, on which they sacrifice to Mithras. And Duris writes thus, with respect to this circumstance, in the seventh book of his Histories: — " The king gets drunk and dances the Persian dance on that festival only which is celebrated by the Persians in honour of Mithras; but no one else does so in all Asia; but all abstain during this day from dancing at all. For the Persians learn to dance as they learn to ride: and they think that the motion originated by this sort of exercise contains in it a good kind of practice tending to the strength “of the body. But Alexander used to get so drunk, as Carystius the Pergamene relates in his Historic Commentaries, that he used even to celebrate banquets in a chariot drawn by asses; and the Persian kings too, says he, did the same thing. And perhaps it was owing to this that he had so little inclination for amatory pleasures; for Aristotle, in his Problems of Natural History, says, that the powers of men who drink to any great excess are much weakened. And Hieronymus, in his Letters, says, that Theophrastus says, that Alexander was not much of a man for women; and accordingly, when Olympias had given him Callixene, a Thessalian courtesan, for a mistress, who was a most beautiful woman, (and all this was done with the consent of Philip, for they were afraid that he was quite impotent,) she was constantly obliged to ask him herself to do his duty by her.
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§ 10.46 And Philip, the father of Alexander, was a man very fond of drinking, as Theopompus relates in the twenty-sixth book of his History. And in another part of his History ho writes, ” Philip was a man of violent temper and fond of courting dangers, partly by nature, and partly too from drinking; for he was a very hard drinker, and very often he would attack the enemy while he was drunk." And in his fifty-third book, speaking of the things that took place at Chaeronea, and relating how he invited to supper the ambassadors of the Athenians who were present there, he says, “But Philip, when they had gone away, immediately sent for some of his companions, and bade the slaves summon the female flute-players, and Aristonicus the harp-player, and Durion the flute-player, and all the rest who were accustomed to drink with him; for Philip always took people of that sort about with him, and he had also invented for himself many instruments for banquets and drinking parties; for being very fond of drinking and a man intemperate in his manners, he used to keep a good many buffoons and musicians and professed jesters about him. And when he had spent the whole night in drinking, and had got very drunk and violent, he then dismissed all the rest, and when it was day-break proceeded in a riotous manner to the ambassadors of the Athenians. And Carystius in his Historical Commentaries says, that Philip, when he intended to get drunk, spoke in this way: ”Now we may drink; for it is quite sufficient if Antipater is sober." And once, when he was playing at dice, and some one told him that Antipater was coming, he hesitated a moment, and then thrust the board under the couch.
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§ 10.47 And Theopompus gives a regular catalogue of men fond of drinking and addicted to drunkenness; and among them he mentions the younger Dionysius, the tyrant of Sicily, whose eyes were a good deal injured by wine. And Aristotle, in his Polity of the Syracusans, says that he sometimes was drunk for three months at a time together, owing to which he had got somewhat weak in the eyes. And Theophrastus says that his companions also, who were flatterers of the supreme power, pretended not to see well, and to be led by the hand by Dionysius, and not to be able to see the meat that was served up before them, nor the cups of wine, on which account they got the name of Dionysiocolaces, or flatterers of Dionysius. Nysseus also, who was tyrant of Syracuse, drank a great deal, and so did Apollocrates; and these men were the sons of the former Dionysius, as Theopompus tells us in the fortieth and forty-first books of his History; and he writes thus about Nysseus: “ Nysseus, who was afterwards tyrant of Syracuse, when he was taken for the purpose of being put to death, and knew that he had only a few months to live, spent them wholly in eating and drinking.” And in his thirty-ninth book he says: “ Apollocrates, the son of Dionysius the tyrant, was an intemperate man, and addicted to drinking; and some of his flatterers worked upon him so as to alienate him as much as possible from his father.” And he says that Hipparinus, the son of Dionysius, who behaved like a tyrant when drunk, was put to death. And about Nysseus he writes as follows: “ Nysseus, the son of the elder Dionysius, having made himself master of Syracuse, got a four-horse chariot, and put on an embroidered robe, and devoted himself to gluttony and hard drinking, and to insulting boys and ravishing women, and to all other acts which are consistent with such conduct. And he passed his life in this manner.” And in his forty-fifth book the same historian, speaking of Timolaus the Theban, says: “For though there have been a great many men who have been intemperate in their daily life, and in their drinking, I do not believe that there has ever been any one who was concerned in state affairs, more intemperate, or a greater glutton, or a more complete slave to his pleasures than Timolaus, whom I have mentioned.” And in his twenty-third book, speaking of Charidemus of Oreus, whom the Athenians made a citizen, he says: “For it was notorious that he spent every day in the greatest intemperance, and in such a manner that he was always drinking and getting drunk, and endeavouring to seduce free-born women; and he carried his intemperance to such a height that he ventured to beg a young boy, who was very beautiful and elegant, from the senate of the Olynthians, who had happened to be taken prisoner in the company of Derdas the Macedonian.”
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§ 10.48 A man of the name of Arcadion, too, was a very great drinker, (but it is uncertain whether this is the same man who was at enmity with Philip,) as the epigram shows which Polemo has preserved in his treatise on the Inscriptions existing in different Cities — This is the monument of that great drinker, Arcadion; and his two loving sons. Dorcon and Charmylus, have placed it here, At this the entrance of his native city: And know, traveller, the man did die From drinking strong wine in too large a cup. And the inscription over some man of the name of Erasixenus says that he also drank a great deal. Twice was this cup, full of the strongest wine, Drained by the thirsty Erasixenus, And then in turn it carried him away. Alcetas the Macedonian also used to drink a great deal, as Aristos the Salaminian relates; and so did Diotimus the Athenian: and he was the man who was surnamed the Funnel. For he put a funnel into his mouth, and would then drink without ceasing while the wine was being poured into it, according to the account of Polemo. And it has been already mentioned that Cleomenes the Lacedemonian was a great drinker of unmixed wine; and that in consequence of his drunkenness he cut himself to pieces with a sword, is related by Herodotus. And Alcaeus the poet also was very fond of drinking, as I have already mentioned. And Baton of Sinope, in his essay on Ion the poet, says that Ion was a man fond of drinking and amorous to excess; and he himself, too, in his Elegies, confesses that he loved Chrysilla the Corinthian, the daughter of Teleas, with whom Teleclides, in his Hesiods, says that the Olympian Pericles also was in love. And Xenarchus the Rhodian, on account of the excessive way in which he used to drink, was surnamed “The Nine-gallon Cask;” and Euphorion the Epic poet mentions him in his Chiliades.
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§ 10.49 And Chares the Mitylenaean, in his History of Alexander, speaking of Calanus the Indian philosopher, and saying that he threw himself on a funeral pile that had been raised, and so died, says also that Alexander instituted some gymnastic games at his tomb, and also a musical contest of panegyrics on him. — " And he instituted," says Chares, “because of the great fondness of the Indians for wine, a contest as to who should drink the greatest quantity of unmixed wine; and the prize was a talent for the first, and thirty minae for the second, and ten minae for the third. And of those who entered for the prize and drank the wine, thirty-five died at once by reason of the cold; and a little afterwards six more died in their tents. And he who drank the greatest quantity and won the prize, drank four choes of unmixed wine, and received the talent; and he lived four days after it; and he was called the Champion.” And Timaeus says that Dionysius the tyrant gave, at the festival of the Choes, to the first man who should drink a choeus, a golden crown as a prize and he says also that Xenocrates the philosopher was the first person who drank it; and that he, taking the golden crown, and departing, offered it up to the Hermes who was placed in his vestibule, on which statue he was always accustomed on every occasion to offer up the garlands of flowers which he had, every evening as he returned home; and he was much admired for this conduct." And Phanodemus says, that the festival of the Choes was established at Athens by Demophoon the king, when he was desirous to receive Orestes in hospitality on his arrival at Athens. And that, as he did not like him to approach the sanctuaries, or to share in the libations offered to the gods, before his trial was decided, he ordered all the sanctuaries to be shut, and a choeus of wine to be set before everybody, saying that a cheesecake should be given as a prize to the first person who drank it up. And he bade them, when they had finished drinking, not to offer up the garlands, with which they had been crowned, in the sanctuaries, because they had been under the same roof with Orestes; but he desired each man to place his garland round his own cup, and so to bring them to the priestess at the precinct which is in Limnai [the Marshes], and after that to perform the rest of the sacred ceremonies in the sanctuary. And from thence it was that this festival got the name of the Choes. But on the day of the festival of the Choes, it is customary for the Athenians to send presents and pay to the sophists, who also themselves invite their acquaintances to a banquet, as Euboulides the dialectician shows us in his drama entitled the Revellers, where he says — You're acting like a sophist now, you wretch, And long for the pay-giving feast of Choes.
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§ 10.50 But Antigonus the Carystian, in his essay on the Life of Dionysius of Heracleia, who was called the Turncoat (Metathemenos), says that Dionysius, when he was feasting with his slaves at the festival of the Pitchers, and was not able, by reason of his old age, to avail himself of the courtesan whom they brought him, turned round and said to those who were feasting with him — I cannot now, so let another take her. But Dionysius, as Nicias of Nicaea tells us in his Successions, had been from the time he was a boy very wanton in the indulgence of his lustfulness; and he used to go to all the prostitutes promiscuously.. And once, when walking with some of his acquaintances, when he came near the house where the girls are kept, and where, having been there the day before, he had left some money owing, as he happened to have some with him then, he put out his hand and paid it in the presence of all of them.
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§ 10.50b And Anacharsis the Scythian, when a prize for drinking was proposed at the table of Periander, demanded the prize, because he was the first man to be drunk of all the guests who were present; as if to get to the end were the goal to be aimed at, and the victory to be achieved in drinking as in running a race. But Lacydes and Timon the philosophers, being invited to an entertainment which was to last two days, by one of their friends, and wishing to adapt themselves to the rest of the guests, drank with great eagerness. And accordingly in the first day, Lacydes went away first, as soon as he was quite satiated with drink. And Timon, seeing him as he was departing, said [ Il. 22' ] — Now have we gained immortal praise and fame, Since we have slain great Hector... But on the next day Timon went away first because he could not drink up the goblet in which he had been pledged,. and Lacydes seeing him departing, said [ Il 6' ] — Wretched are they who dare encounter me.
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§ 10.51 And Herodotus, in his second book relates that Mycerinus the Egyptian, having been told by the soothsayers that he was fated to live but a short time, used to light a great number of lamps when night arrived, and spend all his time in drinking and luxury, relaxing neither by day nor by night; and when he withdrew into the marshes and into the groves, or wherever he heard that there were meetings of young people to amuse themselves, he always got drunk. And Herodotus tells us that Amasis also, who was another of the Egyptian kings,. was a very hard drinker indeed. And Hermeias of Methymna, in the third book of his History of Sicily, says that Nicoteles the Corinthian was a man greatly addicted to drinking. And Phaenias of Eresus, in the book entitled, The Slaying of Tyrants out of Revenge, says that Scopas the son of Creon, and the grandson of the former Scopas, was throughout his whole life very fond of drinking; and that he used to return from banquets at which he had been present, sitting on a throne, and carried by four bearers, and in that way he used to enter his house. And Phylarchus, in the sixth book of his Histories, says that Antiochus the king was a man very fond of wine; and that he used to get drunk, and then go to sleep for a long time, and then, as evening came on, he would wake up, and drink again.. And it was very seldom, says he, that he transacted the affairs of his kingdom when he was sober, but much more frequently when he was drunk; on which account there were two men about him who managed all the real business of the state as they pleased, namely Aristus and Themison, Cyprians by birth, and brothers; and they were both on terms of the greatest intimacy with Antiochus.
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§ 10.52 And Antiochus the king, who was surnamed Epiphanes, was also a great drinker,- the one, I mean, who had been a hostage among the Romans, whom Ptolemaeus Euergetes mentions in the third book of his Commentaries, and also in the fifth;. saying that he turned to Indian revellings and drunkenness, and spent a vast quantity of money in those practices; and for the rest of the money which he had at hand, he spent a part of it in his daily revels, and the rest he would scatter about, standing in the public streets, and saying, “Let whoever chance gives it to, take it:” and then, throwing the money about, he would depart. And very often, having a plaited garland of roses on his head, and wearing a golden embroidered robe, he would walk about alone, having stones under his arm, which he would throw at those of his friends who were following him. And he used to bathe also in the public baths, anointed all over with perfumes;. and, on one occasion, some private individual, seeing him, said, “You are a happy man, O king; you smell in a most costly manner:” and he, being much pleased, said, “I will give you as much as you can desire of this perfume.” And so he ordered an ewer containing more than two choes of thick perfumed unguent to be poured over his head; so that the multitude of the poorer people who were about all collected to gather up what was spilt; and, as the place was made very slippery by it, Antiochus himself slipped and fell, laughing a great deal, and most of the bathers did the same.
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§ 10.52b But Polybius, in the twenty-sixth book of his Histories [ 26. ], calls this man Epimanes (mad), and not Epiphanes (illustrious), on account of his actions.- “For he not only used to go to entertainments of the common citizens, but he also would drink with any strangers who happened to be sojourning in the city, and even with those of the meanest class. And if,” says Polybius, “he heard that any of the younger men were making a feast anywhere whatever, he would come with an earthen bowl, and with music, so that the greater part of the feasters fled away alarmed at his unexpected appearance. And very often he would put off his royal robes, and take a common cloak, and in that dress go round the market.”
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§ 10.53 And in the thirty-first book of his Histories [ 30. ], the same Polybius tells us “that when Antiochus was celebrating some public games at Antioch, he invited all the Greeks and any of the multitude who chose to come to the spectacle. And when a great many people came, he anointed them all in the gymnasia with ointment of saffron, and cinnamon, and nard, and amaracus, and lilies, out of golden vessels: and then, inviting them all to a feast, he filled sometimes a thousand. and sometimes fifteen hundred triclinia with the most expensive preparations; and he himself personally attended to waiting on the guests. For, standing at the entrance, he introduced some, and others he placed upon the couches; and he himself marshalled the servants who brought in the different courses; and, walking about among the guests, at times he sat down in one place, and at times he lay down in another. And sometimes he would put down what he was eating, and at other times he would lay down his cup, and jump up, and change his place, and go all round the party, standing up himself, and pledging different people at different times; and then, mingling with the musicians,. he would be brought in by the actors, entirely covered up, and laid down on the ground, as if he had been one of the actors himself; and then, when the music gave the signal, the king would leap up, and dance and sport among the actors, so that they were all ashamed. To such absurdities does a want of education, when joined with drunkenness, reduce miserable men.” And his namesake, the Antiochus who carried on war in Media against Arsaces, was very fond of drinking;. as Poseidonius of Apameia relates in the sixteenth book of his History. Accordingly, when he was slain, he says that Arsaces, when he buried him, said- “Your courage and your drunkenness have ruined you, O Antiochus; for you hoped that, in your great cups, you would be able to drink up the kingdom of Arsaces.”
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§ 10.54 But the Antiochus who was surnamed the Great, who was subdued by the Romans (as Polybius relates in his twentieth book [ 20. ]), having arrived at Chalcis, in Euboea, celebrated a marriage when he was fifty years of age; and after he had undertaken two most enormous and important affairs, namely, the liberation of the Greeks (as he himself professed) and the war against the Romans.. At all events, he, being smitten with love for a girl of Chalcis, was very anxious to marry her at the very time that he was engaged in this war, being a man very fond of drinking and delighting in drunkenness. And she was the daughter of Cleophanes, one of the nobles, and superior to all the maidens of her country in beauty. Accordingly, he celebrated his marriage in Chalcis, and remained there all the winter, not once giving the smallest thought to the important affairs which he had in hand. And he gave the girl the name of Euboea. Accordingly, being defeated in the war, he fled to Ephesus, with his newly-married bride.
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§ 10.54b And in the second book [ 2. ], the same Polybius relates that Agron, the king of the Illyrians, being delighted at having gained a victory over the haughty Aetolians, being a man much addicted to drinking, and to drunkenness, and banqueting, fell ill of a pleurisy, and died. And the same historian says, in his twenty-ninth book [ 29. ], that Genthion, the king of the Illyrians, on account of his great fondness for drinking, did a great many intemperate things during his life, being incessantly drunk, both night and day; and having murdered Pleuratus, his brother, who was about to marry the daughter of Menunius, he married the girl himself, and treated his subjects with great cruelty.. And he says, in the thirty-third book of his History [ 33. ], that Demetrius, when he fled after having been a hostage at Rome, and became king of the Syrians, became a great drinker, and was drunk the greater part of the day. And he also, in his thirty-second book [ 32. ], says that Orophernes, who was for a short time king of Cappadocia, disregarded all the customs of his country, and introduced the artificial luxury of the Ionians.
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§ 10.55 On which account, that most divine of writers, Plato, lays down admirable laws in his second book [ Laws 2.666'a ] — “That boys, till they are eighteen years of age, should absolutely never taste wine at all;. for that it is not well to heap fire on fire: that men up to thirty years of age may drink wine in moderation; and that the young man should wholly abstain from much wine and from drunkenness. But that a man, when he arrives at forty years of age, may feast in large banquets, and invoke the other gods, and especially Dionysus, to the feasts and amusements of the older men; since he it is who has given men this means of indulgence, as an ally against the austerity of old age, for which wine was the best medicine; so that, owing to it, we grow young again, and forget our moroseness.”. And then he proceeds to say- “But there is a report and story told that this god was once deprived of his mind and senses by his mother-in-law, Hera; on which account he sent Bacchic frenzy, and all sorts of frantic rage, among men, out of revenge for the treatment which he had experienced; on which account also he gave wine to men.”
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§ 10.56 But Phalaecus, in his Epigrams, makes mention of a woman, whose name was Cleo, as having been a very hard drinker- Cleo bestowed this gift on Dionysus, The tunic, fringed with gold and saffron hues, Which long she wore herself; so great she was At feasts and revelry: there was no man Who could at all contend with her in drinking. And it is a well-known fact that all the race of women is fond of drinking. And it was not without some wit that Xenarchus introduces, in his Pentathlon, a woman swearing this most horrible oath:- May it be granted me to pass from life Drinking abundant draughts of wine, while you, My darling daughter, live and prosper here. But among the Romans, as Polybius says, in his sixth book [ 6.11a' ], it was forbidden to women to drink wine at all. However, they drink what is called passum; and that is made of raisins,. and when drank is very like the sweet wines of Aegosthena and Crete, on which account men use it when oppressed by excessive thirst. And it is impossible for a woman to drink wine without being detected: for, first of all, she has not the key of the cellar; and, in the next place, she is bound to kiss her relations, and those of her husband, down to cousins, and to do this every day when she first sees them; and besides this, she is forced to be on her best behaviour, as it is quite uncertain whom she may chance to meet;
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§ 10.56b for if she has merely tasted wine, it needs no informer, but is sure to betray itself." And Alcimus the Sicilian, in that book of his which is entitled the Italian History, says that all the women in Italy avoid drinking wine on this account: “When Heracles was in the district of Croton, he one day was very thirsty, and came to a certain house by the wayside and asked for something to drink; and it happened that the wife of the master of the house had secretly opened a cask of wine, and therefore she said to her husband that it would be a shameful thing for him to open this cask for a stranger; and so she told him to give Heracles some water.. But Heracles, who was standing at the door, and heard all this, praised her husband very much, but advised him to go indoors himself and look at the cask. And when he had gone in, he found that the cask had become petrified. And this fact is proved by the conduct of the women of the country, among whom it is reckoned disgraceful, to this day, to drink wine, on account of the above-mentioned reason.”
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§ 10.57 And what sort of women those among the Greeks are who get drunk, Antiphanes tells us, in his Woman Hit by a Javelin; where he says- I have a neighbour who sells wine,. And he, whenever I arrive, being thirsty, Is the only man who knows the proper way In which to mix my wine; and makes it not Too full of water, nor too strong and heady: I recollect that once when I was drinking..... And, in his Woman Initiated, (and it is women who are conversing,) he writes- (A) Would you now like, my dearest friend, to drink? (B) No doubt I should. (A) Well come, then, take a cup; For they do say the first three cups one takes All tend to the honour of the heavenly gods. And Alexis, in his Female Dancer, says-. (A) But women are quite sure to be content If they have only wine enough to drink. (B) But, by the heavenly twins, we now shall have As much as we can wish; and it shall be Sweet, and not griping,- rich, well-seasoned wine, Exceeding old. (A) I like this aged sphinx; For hear how now she talks to me in riddles. And so on. And, in his Zeus the Mourner, he mentions a certain woman named Zopyra, and says- Zopyra, that wine-cask. Antiphanes, in his The Bacchants - But since this now is not the case, I'm sure He is a wretched man who ever marries Except among the Scythians; for their country Is the sole land which does not bear the vine. And Xenarchus, in his Pentathlon, says- I write a woman's oath in mighty wine.
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§ 10.58 Platon, in his Phaon, relating how many things happen to women because of wine, says- Come now, ye women, long ago have I Prayed that this wine may thus become your folly; For you don't think, as the old proverb goes, That there is any wisdom at a vintner's. For if you now desire to see Phaon,. You first must all these solemn rites perform. First, as the Kourotrophos (nurse of youths), I must receive A vigorous cheesecake, and a pregnant mealcake, And sixteen thrushes whole, well smeared with honey, Twelve hares, all taken when the moon was full; But all the other things may be got cheaply. Now listen. Three half-measures of fine onions; These for Orthannes. For Conisalus And his two mates, a plate of myrtleberries,
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§ 10.58b Plucked with the hand: for the great Gods above Dislike the smell of lamps. You must offer (?) A dark-coloured raisin for the dogs and huntsmen. A drachma for Lordon; for Cybdasus, Three obols; for the mighty hero Celes, Some hides and incense. Now if you bring These things, you'll certainly obtain admittance; But if you don't, you'll knock in vain, and long In vain to enter, and get nothing by it. And Axionicus says, in his Philinna - Just trust a woman to drink no water.
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§ 10.59 And whole nations are mentioned as addicted to drunkenness.. Accordingly, Baeton, the measurer of distances for Alexander, in his book which is entitled Stations of the March of Alexander, and Amyntas also, in his Stations, says that the nation of the Tapyri is so fond of wine that they never use any other unguent than that. And Ctesias tells the same story, in his book Concerning the Revenues in Asia. And he says that they are a most just people. And Harmodius of Lepreum, in his treatise on the Laws in force among the people of Phigaleia, says that the Phigaleians are addicted to drinking, being neighbours of the Messenians, and being also a people much accustomed to travelling.. And Phylarchus, in his sixth book, says that the Byzantians are so exceedingly fond of wine, that they live in the wine-shops and let out their own houses and their wives also to strangers: and that they cannot bear to hear the sound of a trumpet even in their sleep. On which account once, when they were attacked by the enemy, and could not endure the labour of defending their walls, Leonidas, their general, ordered the innkeepers' booths to be erected as tents upon the walls, and even then it was with difficulty that they were stopped from deserting, as Damon tells us, in his book on Byzantium. But Menander, in his play called the Woman carrying the Peplos of Athene, or the Female Flute-player, says-. Byzantium makes all the merchants drunk. On your account we drank the whole night long, And right strong wine too, as it seems to me,- At least I got up with four heads, I think. And the Argives too are ridiculed by the comic poets as addicted to drunkenness; and so are the Tirynthians by Ephippus, in his Busiris. And he introduces Heracles as saying- (A) For how in the name of all the gods at once, Do you not know me, the Tirynthian Argive? That race fights all its battles when it's drunk.. (B) And that is why they always run away. And Eubulus, in his Man Glued, says that the Milesians are very insolent when they are drunk. And Polemon, in his treatise on the Inscriptions to be found in Cities, speaking of the Eleans, produces this epigram:- Elis is always drunk, and always lying: As is each single house, so is the city.
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§ 10.60 And Theopompus, in his twenty-second book, speaking of the Chalcidians in Thrace, says: “For they disregarded all the most excellent habits, rushing readily with great eagerness to drinking and laziness, and every sort of intemperance. And all the Thracians are addicted to drinking; on which account Callimachus says — For he could hardly bear the Thracian way Of drinking monstrous goblets at one draught; And always did prefer a smaller cup.” And, in his fiftieth book, Theopompus makes this statement about the Methymnaeans: “And they live on the most sumptuous kind of food, lying down and drinking — and never doing anything at all worthy of the expense that they went to. So Cleomenes the tyrant stopped all this; he who also ordered the female pimps, who were accustomed to seduce free-born women, and also three or four of the most nobly born of those who had been induced to prostitute themselves, to be sewn in sacks and thrown into the sea.” And Hermippus, in his account of the Seven Wise Men, says Periander did the same thing. But in the second book of his History of the Exploits of Philip he says, “The Illyrians both eat and drink in a sitting posture; and they take their wives to their entertainments; and it is reckoned a decorous custom for the women to pledge the guests who are present. And they lead home their husbands from their drinking parties; and they all live plainly, and when they drink, they girdle their stomach with broad girdles, and at first they do so moderately; but when they drink more vehemently, then they keep contracting their belt. And the Ardiaeans,” says he, “have three hundred thousand slaves whom they call prospelates, and who correspond to the Helots; and they get drunk every day, and make large entertainments, and are very intemperate in their eating and drinking. On which account the Celts when making war upon them, knowing their intemperance, ordered all the soldiers to prepare as superb a feast as possible in the tent, and to put in the food some medicinal herbs which had the power to gripe and purge the bowels exceedingly. And when this had been done.... And so some of them were taken by the Celts and put to death, and some threw themselves into the rivers, being unable to endure the pains which they were suffering in their stomachs.”
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§ 10.61 Now, after Democritus had uttered all this long uninterrupted discourse, Pontianus said that wine was the metropolis of all these evils; and it was owing to this that drunkenness, and madness, and all sorts of debauchery took place; and that those people who were too much addicted to it were not unappropriately called rowers of cups, by that Dionysius who is surnamed the Brazen, in his Elegies, where he says — And those who bring their wine in Dionysos' rowing, Sailors through feasts, and rowers of large cups. And concerning this class of men, (for it is not extinct,) Alexis, in his Curia, speaking of some one who drunk to excess, says — This then my son is such in disposition As you have just beheld him. An Oinopion, Or Maron, or Capelus, or Timocles, For he's a drunkard, nothing more nor less. And for the other, what can I call him? A lump of earth, a plough, an earth-born man. So getting drunk is a bad thing, my good friends; and the same Alexis says, with great cleverness, to those who swallow wine in this way, in his Opora, (and the play is called after a courtesan of that name,) —' Are you then full of such a quantity Of unmixed wine, and yet avoid to vomit? And in his Ring he says — Is not, then, drunkenness the greatest evil, And most injurious to the human race % And in his Steward he says — For much wine is the cause of many crimes. And Crobylus, in his Female Deserter, says — What pleasure, prithee tell me, can there be In getting always drunk? in, while still living, Yourself depriving thus of all your senses; The greatest good which nature e'er has given? Therefore it is not right to get drunk; for “A city which has been governed by a democracy,” says Plato, in the eighth book of his Polity, “when it has thirsted for freedom, if it meets with bad cupbearers to help it, and if, drinking of the desired draught too deeply, it becomes intoxicated,'then punishes its magistrates if they are not very gentle indeed, and if they do not allow it a great deal of licence, blaming them as wicked and oligarchical; and those people who obey the magistrates it insults.” And, in the sixth book of his Laws, he says — " A city ought to be like a well mixed goblet, in which the wine which is poured in rages; but being restrained by the opposite and sober deity, enters into a good partnership with it, and so produces a good and moderate drink."
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§ 10.62 For profligate debauchery is engendered by drunkenness. On which account Antiphanes, in his Arcadia, says — For it, O father, never can become A sober man to seek debauchery, Nor yet to serious cares to give his mind, When it is rather time to drink and feast. But he that cherishes superhuman thoughts, Trusting to small and miserable riches, Shall at some future time himself discover That he is only like his fellow-men, If he looks, like a doctor, at the tokens, And sees which way his veins go, up or down, On which the life of mortal man depends. And, in his Aeolus, mentioning with indignation the evil deeds which those who are great drinkers do, he says — Macareus, when smitten with unholy love For one of his own sisters, for a while Repressed the evil thought, and checked himself; But after some short time he wine admitted To be his general, under whose sole lead Audacity takes the place of prudent counsel. And so by night his purpose he accomplished. And well, therefore, did Aristophanes term wine the milk of Venus, saying — And wine, the milk of Venus, sweet to drink; because men, after having drunk too much of it, have often conceived a desire for illicit amours.
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§ 10.63 But Hegesander the Delphian speaks of some men as (ξοίνοί; by which term he means, overtaken with wine; speaking thus: — " Comeon and Rhodophon being two of the ministers who managed the affairs of Rhodes, were both drunk; and Comeon attacking Rhodophon as a gambler, said — O you old man, the crew of youthful gamblers Beyond a doubt are pressing hard upon you. And Rhodophon reproached him with his passion for women, and with his incontinence, abstaining from no sort of abuse." And Theopompus, in the sixteenth book of his Histories, speaking of another Rhodian, says — “When Hegesilochus had become perfectly useless, partly from drunkenness and gambling, and when he had utterly lost all credit among the Rhodians, and when instead his whole course of life was found fault with by his own companions and by the rest of the citizens.” Then he goes on to speak of the oligarchy which he established with his friends, saying — “And they violated a great number of nobly-born women, wives of the first men in the state; and they corrupted no small number of boys and young men; and they carried their profligacy to such a height that they even ventured to play with one another at dice for the free-born women, and they made a bargain which of the nobly-born matrons he who threw the lowest number on the dice should bring to the winner for the purpose of being ravished; allowing no exception at all; but the loser was bound to bring her to the place appointed, in whatever way he could, using persuasion, or even force if that was necessary. And some of the other Rhodians also played at dice in this fashion; but the most frequent and open of all the players in this way was Hegesilochus, who aspired to become the governor of the city.” And Antheas the Lindian, who claimed to be considered a relation of Cleobulus the philosopher, as Philodemus reports, in his treatise on the Sminthians in Rhodes, being an oldish man, and very rich, and being also an accomplished poet, celebrated the festivals in honour of Dionysos all his life, wearing a dress such as is worn by the votaries of Dionysos, and maintaining a troop of fcllow-revellers. And he was constantly leading revels both day and night; and he was the first man who invented that kind of poetry which depends upon compound words, which Asopodorus the Phliasian afterwards employed in his conversational Iambics. And he too used to write comedies and many other pieces in the same style of poetry, which he used to recite to his phallus-bearers. [64.]
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§ 10.64 When Ulpianus had heard all this he said,- Tell me, my good Pontianus, says he, in what author does the word πάροινος occur?. And he replied- You will undo me with your questions (as the excellent Agathon says)-.... and your new fashion, Always talking at an unseasonable time. But since it is decided that we are to be responsible to you for every word, Antiphanes, in his Lydian, has said- A Colchian man drunken and quarrelsome (πάροινος). But you are not yet satisfied about your πάροινοι, and drunkards; nor do you consider that Eumenes the king of Pergamum, the nephew of Philetaerus, who had formerly been king of Pergamum, died of drunkenness,. as Ctesicles relates, in the third book of his Chronicles. But, however, Perseus, whose power was put down by the Romans, did not die in that way; for he did not imitate his father Philippus in anything; for he was not eager about women, nor was he fond of wine; but when at a feast he was not only moderate himself, but all his friends who were with him were so too, as Polybius relates, in his twenty-sixth book. But you, O Ulpianus, are a most immoderate drinker yourself (ἀρῥυθμοπότης), as Timon of Phlius calls it. For so he called those men who drink a great quantity of unmixed wine,. in the second book of his Silli - Or that great ox -goad, harder than Lycurgus', Who smote the ἀρῥυθμοπόται of Dionysus, And threw their cups and brimming ladles down. For I do not call you simply ποτικὸς, or fond of drinking; and this last is a word which Alcaeus has used, in his Ganymedes. And that a habit of getting drunk deceives our eyesight, Anacharsis has shown plainly enough,. in what he says where he shows that mistaken opinions are taken up by drunken men. For a fellow-drinker of his once, seeing his wife at a banquet, said, “ Anacharsis, you have married an ugly woman.” And he replied, “Indeed I think so too, but however now, give me, O boy, a cup of stronger wine, that I may make her out beautiful.”
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§ 10.65 After this Ulpian, pledging one of his companions, said, — But, my dear friend, according to Antiphanes, who says, in his Countryman — A. Shut now your eyes, and drink it all at once. B.'Tis a great undertaking. A. Not for one Who has experience in mighty draughts. Drink then, my friend; and — A. Let us not always drink (as the same Antiphanes says, in his Wounded Man,) Full cups, hut let some reason and discussion Come in between, and some short pretty songs; Let some sweet strophes sound. There is no work, Or only one at least, I tell you true, In which some variation is not pleasant. B. Give me, then, now at once, I beg you, wine, Strengthening the limbs (αρκεσίγυιον), as says Euripides — A. Aye, did Euripides use such a word? B. No doubt — who else? A. It may have been Philoxenus,'Tis all the same; my friend, you now convict me, Or seek to do so, for one syllable. And he said, — But who has ever used this form πίθι? And Ulpian replied, — Why, you are all in the dark, my friend, from having drunk such a quantity of wine. You have it in Cratinus, in his Ulysseses, — Take now this cup, and when you've taken, drink it (πίθι), And then ask me my name. And Antiphanes, in his Mystic, says — A. Still drink (πίθί)» I bid you. B. I'll obey you, then, For certainly a goblet's figure is A most seductive shape, and fairly worthy The glory of a festival. We have — Have not we? (for it is not long ago) — Drunk out of cruets of vile earthenware. May the Gods now, my child, give happiness And all good fortune to the clever workman For the fair shape that he bestowed on thee. And Diphilus, in his Bath, says — Fill the cup full, and hide the mortal part, The goblet made by man, with godlike wine: Drink (πιθι); these are gifts, my father, given us By the good Zeus, who thus protects companionship. And Ameipsias, in his Sling, says — When you have stirred the sea-hare, take and drink (πΐθή. And Menander, in his Female Flute-player, says — Away with you; have you ne'er drunk, O Sosilas? Drink (πίθι) now, I beg, for you are wondrous mad.
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§ 10.66 And in the future tense of πίνω, we should not read πιουμαι, but πιόμαι without the υ, lengthening the ι. And this is the way the future is formed in that line of Homer — (πιόμεν' εκ βοτάνης) Drank after feeding. And Aristophanes, in his Knights, says — He ne'er shall drink (πίεται) of the same cup with me: and in another place he says — Thou shalt this day drink (πιει) the most bitter wine; though this might, perhaps, come from πιοΰμαι. Sometimes, however, they shorten the ι, as Plato does, in his Women Returning from Sacrifice — Nor he who drinks up (εκπιεται) all her property: and in his Syrphax he says — And ye shall drink (πιεσθε) much water. And Menander uses the word πΐε as a dissyllable, in his Dagger — A. Drink (πιε). B. I will compel this wretch, This sacrilegious wretch, to drink (πιειν) it first: and the expression τη πιε, take and drink, and πΐνε, drink. So do you, my friend, drink; and as Alexis says, in his Twins, — Pledge you (πρόπιθι) this man, that he may pledge another. And let it be a cup of comradeship, which Anacreon calls επίστιος. For that great lyric poet says — And do not chatter like the wave Of the loud brawling sea, with that Ever-loquacious Gastrodora, Drinking the cup επίστιος. But the name which we give it is άνίσων.
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§ 10.67 But do not you be afraid to drink; nor will you be in any danger of falling on your hinder parts; for the people who drink what Simonides calls — Wine, the brave router of all melancholy, can never suffer such a mischance as that. But as Aristotle says, in his book on Drunkenness, they who have drunk beer, which they call πΐνος, fall on their backs. For he says, “But there is a peculiarity in the effects of the drink made from barley, which they call πΐνος, for they who get drunk on other intoxicating liquors fall on all parts of their body; they fall on the left side, on the right side, on their faces, and on their backs. But it is only those who get drunk on beer who fall on their backs, and lie with their faces upwards.” But the wine which is made of barley is by some called βρυτος, as Sophocles says, in his Triptolemus — And not to drink the earthy beer (βρύτον). And Archilochus says — And she did vomit wine as any Thracian Might vomit beer (βρύτον), and played the wanton stooping. And Aeschylus, also, mentions this drink, in his Lycurgus — And after this he drank his beer (βρύτον), and much And loudly bragged in that most valiant house. But Hellanicus, in his Origins, says that beer is made also out of roots, and he writes thus: — " But they drink beer (βρύτον) made of roots, as the Thracians drink it made of barley." And Hecataeus, in the second book of his Description of the World, speaking of the Egyptians, and saying that they are great bread-eaters, adds, “They bruise barley so as to make a drink of it.” And, in his Voyage round Europe, he says that " the Paeonians drink beer made of barley and a liquor called παραβίη, made of millet and conyza. And they anoint themselves," adds he, “with oil made of milk.” And this is enough to say on these topics.
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§ 10.68 But in our time dear to the thyrsus-bearers Is rosy wine, and greatest of all gods Is Dionysos. As Ion the Chian says, in his Elegies — For this is pretext fit for many a song; The great assemblies of th' united Greeks, The feasts of kings, do from this gift proceed, Since first the vine, with hoary bunches laden, Pushed from beneath the ground its fertile shoots, Clasping the poplar in its firm embrace, And from its buds burst forth a numerous race, Crashing, as one upon the other press'd; But when the noise has ceased they yield their juice, Divinest nectar, which to mortal men Is ever the sole remedy for care, And common cause of joy and cheerfulness. Parent of feasts, and laughter, and the dance, “Wine shows the disposition of the good, And strengthens all their noble qualities. Hail! then, O Dionysos, president of feasts, Dear to all men who love the wreathed flowers; Give us, kind God, an age of happiness, To drink, and play, and cherish just designs. But Amphis, in his Philadelphi, praising the life of those who are fond of drinking, says: — For many causes do I think our life, The life of those who drink, a happy one; And happier far than yours, whose wisdom all Lies in a stern and solemn-looking brow. For that slow prudence which is always busy In setting small affairs, which with minuteness, And vain solicitude, keeps hunting trifles, Fears boldly to advance in things of weight; But our mind, not too fond of scrutinising Th' exact result of every trifling measure, Is ever for prompt deeds of spirit ready.
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§ 10.69 And when Ulpian was about to add something to this Aemilianus said, — It is time for us, my friends, to inquire in some degree about γρίφοι, that we may leave our cups for a little while, not indeed in the spirit of that work which is entitled the Grammatical Tragedy of Callias the Athenian: but let us first inquire what is the definition of what we call a γρίφος And we may omit what Cleobulina of Lindus has proposed in her Epigrams; for our companion, Diotimus of Olympia, has discussed that point sufficiently; but we must consider how the comic poets have mentioned it, and what punishment those who have foiled to solve it have undergone. And Laurentius said, — Clearchus the Solensian defines the word thus: ”γριφος," says he, “is a sportive problem, in which we are bidden to seek out, by the exertion of our intellect and powers of investigation, what is proposed to us, which has been uttered for the sake of some honour or some penalty.” And in his discussion on these griphi, the same Clearchus asserts that “there are seven kinds of griphi. In the letter, when we say that there is a certain name of a fish or plant, beginning with a. And similarly, when he who proposes the griphus desires us to mention some name in which some particular letter is or is not. Such are those which are called sigma-less griphi; on which account Pindar has composed an ode on the σ, as if some griphus had been proposed to him as a subject for a lyric poem. Then griphi are said to be in the syllable, when we are desired to recite some verse which begins with the syllable βα, as with βασιλεύς, for instance, or which ends with ναξ, as Καλλιάναξ, or some in which the syllables Λεων take the lead, as Λεωνίδας, or on the other hand close the sentence, as Θρασυλεων. They are in the name, when we utter simple or compound names of two syllables, by which some tragic figure, or on the other hand some humble one, is indicated; or some names which have no connexion with anything divine, as Κλεώνυμος, or which have some such connexion, as Διονύσιος: and this, too, whether the connexion be with one God or with more, as Ερμαφρόδιτος; or whether the name begins with Zeus, as Διοκλής, or with Hermes, as Έρμόδωρος; or whether it ends, as it perhaps may, with νΐκος. And then they who were desired to say such and such things, and could not, had to drain the cup.” And Clearchus defined the word in'this way. And now you, my good friend Ulpian, may inquire what the cup to be drained is.
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§ 10.70 But concerning these griphi, Antiphanes says, in his Cnoethis, or the Pot-bellied Man — A. I thought before that those who while at meals Bade me solve griphi, were the silliest triflers, Talking mere nonsense. And when any one Was bade to say what a man bore and bore not, I laughed and thought it utter childishness; And did not think that truth did lie beneath, But reckoned them as traps for the unwary. But now, indeed, I see there is some truth in them; For we, ten men, contribute now for supper, But no one of them all bears what he brings, So here's a case where he who bears bears not, And this is just the meaning of a griphus. So surely this may fairly be excused; But others play tricks with the things themselves, Paying no money, as, for instance, Philip. B. A wise and fortunate man, by Zeus, is he. And in his Aphrodisian he says — A. Suppose I want to say now " dish" to you, Shall I say " dish," or shall I rather say, Λ hollow-bodied vessel, made of earth, Formed by the potter's wheel in rapid swing, Baked in another mansion of its mother, Which holds within its net the tender milk-fed Offspring of new-born flocks untimely choked? B. By Hercules, you'll kill me straight if you Do not in plain words say a " dish of meat." A.'Tis well. And shall I speak to you of drops Flowing from bleating goats, and well compounded With streams proceeding from the yellow bee, Sitting on a broad receptacle provided By the chaste virgin born of holy Ceres, And now luxuriating beneath a host Of countless finely-wrought integuments; Or shall I say " a cheesecake?" B. Prithee say a cheesecake. A. Shall I speak of rosy sweat From Bacchic spring? B. I'd rather you'd say wine. A. Or shall I speak of dusky dewy drops? B. No such long paraphrase, — say plainly, water. A. Or shall I praise the cassia-breathing fragrance That scents the air? B. No, call it myrrh, — forbear Those sad long-winded sentences, those long And roundabout periphrases; it seems To me by for too great a labour thus To dwell on matters which are small themselves, And only great in such immense descriptions.
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§ 10.71 And Alexis, in his Sleep, proposes a griphus of this kind — A. It is not mortal, Dor immortal either, But as it were compounded of the two, So that it neither lives the life of man, Nor yet of God, but is incessantly New born again, and then again deprived Of this its present life; invisible, Yet it is known and recognised by all. B. You always do delight, O lady, in riddles. A. No, I am speaking plain and simple things. B. What child then is there which has such a nature? A.'Tis sleep, my girl, victor of human toils. And Eubulus, in his Sphingocarion, proposes griphi of this kind, himself afterwards giving the solution of them — A. There is a thing which speaks, yet has no tongue; A female of the same name as the male; The steward of the winds, which it holds fast; Bough, and yet sometimes smooth; full of dark voices Scarce to he understood by learned men; Producing harmony after harmony;'Tis one thing, and yet many; e'en if wounded'Tis still invulnerable and unhurt. B. What can that be? A. Why, don't you know, Callistratus? It is a bellows. B. You are joking now. A. No; don't it speak, although it has no tongue? Has it not but one name with many people? Is't not unhurt, though with a wound i' the centre? Is it not sometimes rough, and sometimes smooth] Is it not, too, a guardian of much wind? Again: — There is an animal with a locust's eye, With a sharp mouth, and double deathful head; A mighty warrior, who slays a race Of unborn children. ('Tis the Egyptian ichneumon.) For he does seize upon the crocodile's eggs, And. ere the latent offspring is quite formed, Breaks and destroys them: he's a double head. For he can sting with one end, and bite with th' other. Again: — I know a thing which, while it's young, is heavy, But when it's old, though void of wings, can fly With lightest motion, out of sight o' th' earth. This is thistledown. For it — While it is young, stands solid in its seed, But when it loses that, is light and flies, Blown about every way by playful children. Listen, now, to this one — There is an image all whose upper part Is its foundation, while the lower part Is open; bored all through from head to feet:'Tis sharp, and brings forth men in threefold way, Some of whom gain the lot of life, some lose it: All have it; but I bid them all beware. And you yourselves may decide here, that he means the box into which the votes are tin-own, so that we may not borrow everything from Eubulus.
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§ 10.72 And Antiphanes, in his Problem, says — A. A man who threw his net o'er many fish, Though full of hope, after much toil and cost, Caught only one small perch. And'twas a cestreus Deceived itself, who brought this perch within, For the perch followeth the blacktail gladly. B. A cestreus, blacktail, perch, and man, and net, — I don't know what you mean; there's no sense in it. A. Wait while I clearly now explain myself: There is a man who giving all he has, When giving it, knows not to whom he gives it, Nor knows he has the things he does not need. B. Giving, not giving, having, and not having, — I do not understand one word of this. A. These were the very words of this same griphus. For what you know you do not just now know, What you have given, or what you have instead. This was the meaning. B. Well, I should be glad To give you too a griphus. A. Well, let's have it. B. A pinna and a mullet, two fish, both Endued with voices, had a conversation, And talked of many things; but did not say What they were talking of, nor whom they thought They were addressing; for they both did fail In seeing who it was to whom they talked. And so, while they kept talking to each other, The goddess Ceres came and both destroyed.
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§ 10.73 And in his play called Sappho, Antiphanes represents the poetess herself as proposing griphi, which we may call riddles, in this manner: and then some one else is represented as solving them. For she says — S. There is a female thing which holds her young Safely beneath her bosom; they, though mute, Cease not to utter a loud sounding voice Across the swelling sea, and o'er the land, Speaking to every mortal that they choose; But those who present are can nothing hear, Still they have some sensation of faint sound. And some one, solving this riddle, says — B. The female thing you speak of is a city; The children whom it nourishes, orators; They, crying out, bring from across the sea, From Asia and from Thrace, all sorts of presents: The people still is near them while they feed on it, And pour reproaches ceaselessly around, While it nor hears nor sees aught that they do. S. But how, my father, tell me, in God's name, Can you e'er say an orator is mute, Unless, indeed, he's been three times convicted? B. And yet I thought that I did understand The riddle rightly. Tell me then yourself. And so then he introduces Sappho herself solving the riddle, thus — S. The female thing you speak of is a letter, The young she bears about her is the writing: They're mute themselves, yet speak to those afar off Whenever they please. And yet a bystander, However near he may be, hears no sound From him who has received and reads the letter.
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§ 10.74 And Diphilus, in his Theseus, says that there were once three Samian damsels, who, on the day of the festival of Adonis, used to delight themselves in solving riddles at their feasts. And that when some one had proposed to them this riddle, “What is the strongest of all things?” one said iron, and alleged the following reasons for her opinion, because that is the instrument with which men dig and cut, and that is the material which they use for all purposes. And when she had been applauded, the second damsel said that a blacksmith exerted much greater strength, for that he, when he was at work, bent this strong iron, and softened it, and used it for whatever purposes he chose. And the third said, they were both wrong, and that love was the strongest thing of all, for that love could subdue a blacksmith. And Achaeus the Eretrian, though he is usually a very clear poet as respects the structure of his poems, sometimes makes his language obscure, and says many things in an enigmatical style; as, for instance, in his Iris, which is a satyric play. For he says, “A cruet of litharge full of ointment was suspended from a Spartan tablet, written upon and twisted on a double stick;” meaning to say a white strap, from which a silver cruet was suspended; and he has spoken of a Spartan written tablet when he merely meant the Spartan scytale. And that the Lacedemonians put a white strap, on which they wrote whatever they wished, around the scytale, we are told plainly enough by Apollonius Rhodius, in his Treatise on Archilochus. And Stesichorus, in his Helen, speaks of a footpan of litharge; and Ion, in his Phoenix or Caeneus, calls the birdlime the sweat of the oak, saying — The sweat of oaks, and a long leafy branch Cut from a bush supports me, and a thread Drawn from Egyptian linen, clever snare To catch the flying birds.
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§ 10.75 And Hermippus says, that Theodectes of Phaselus, in his book on the Pupils of Isocrates, was a wonderfully clever man at discovering any riddles that might be proposed to him, and that he too could propose riddles to others with great acuteness. As that riddle about shade, for instance; — for he said that there was a nature which is greatest at its birth and at its decease, and least when at its height. And he speaks thus: — Of all the things the genial earth produces, Or the deep sea, there is no single one, Nor any man or other animal Whose growth at all can correspond to this: For when it first is born its size is greatest; At middle age'tis scarcely visible, So small it's grown; but when'tis old and hastens Nigh to its end, it then becomes again Greater than all the objects that surround it. And in the Oidipus, which is a tragedy, he speaks of night and day in the following riddle: — There are two sisters, one of whom brings forth The other, and in turn becomes its daughter. And Callisthenes, in his Greek History, tells the following story, that " when the Arcadians were besieging Cromnus, (and that is a small town near Megalopolis,) Hippodamus the Lacedemonian, being one of the besieged persons, gave a message to the herald who came to them from the Lacedemonians, showing the condition in which they were by a riddle, and he bade him tell his mother —'to be sure and release within the next ten days the little woman who was bound in the Apollonion; as it would not be possible to release her if they let those days elapse.' And by this message he plainly enough intimated what he was desirous to have understood; for the little woman meant is Famine, of which there was a picture in the Apollonion, near the throne of Apollo, and it was represented under a woman's form; so it was evident to every one that those who were besieged could hold out only ten days more because of famine. So the Lacedemonians, understanding the meaning of what had been said, brought succour with great speed to the men in Cromnus."
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§ 10.76 There are also many other riddles, such as this: — I saw a man who by the means of fire Was gluing brass unto another man So closely that they two became like brothers. And this expression means the application of a cupping glass. And a similar one is that of Panarces, mentioned by Clearchus, in his Essay on Griphi, that “A man who is not a man, with a stone which was not a stone, struck a bird which was not a bird, sitting on a tree which was not a tree.” For the things alluded to here are a eunuch, a piece of pumice-stone, a bat, and a narthex. And Plato, in the fifth book of his Laws, alludes to this riddle, where he says, that those philosophers who occupy themselves about minute arts, are like those who, at banquets, doubt what to eat, and resemble too the boys' riddle about the stone thrown by the eunuch, and about the bat, and about the place from which they say that the eunuch struck down the bat, and the engine with which he did it.
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§ 10.77 And of this sort also are those enigmatical sayings of Pythagoras, as Demetrius of Byzantium says, in the fourth book of his treatise on Poets, where, for instance, he says, “A man should not eat his heart;” meaning, “a man should cultivate cheerfulness.” " One should not stir the fire with a sword meaning, “one should not provoke an angry man for anger is fire, and quarrelsomeness is a sword. ”One should not step over a yoke meaning, “one should avoid and hate all kinds of covetousness, but seek equality.” " One should not travel along the high road;" meaning, “one should not follow the opinions of the multitude, (for the common people approve of whatever they take in their heads without any fixed principle,) but one should rather go on the straight road, using sense as one's guide.” " One should not sit down upon a bushel meaning, “one should not be content with merely considering what is sufficient for the present day, but one should always have an eye to the future ” " For death is the boundary and limit of life;" and this saying is meant to forbid us approaching the subject with anxiety and grief.

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